NL Pure 10x42 broken connector (1 Viewer)

[GrumpyBuzzard]

Just to add another data point: I saw similar damage to that "huge gouge on the objective lens" on my mother's Trinovid 10x40 many years ago. And that wasn't caused by inappropriate cleaning. Leica changed the objective lens on warranty and commented that the objective lens wasn't cleaned properly before it was coated.

Just saying.

Hermann

Interesting and I'm sure if you sent it back their engineers would immediately be able to diagnose such damage.

There is a ton of QC items involved in manufacturing complex items and events that occur you never expect.

Generally if you have proof of purchase with a registered dealer you would be given benefit of doubt with regards to cheating the warranty system.

 

[Owlbarred]

What looks to be serious damage could be due to improper manufacturing / materials that don't hold up to normal use.

And it could be due to a solar eclipse, a typhoon in China,, Barney, the binocular dog, or someone cleaning their lenses with sandpaper.

I’m still asking birders I encounter at FL refuges and parks if they’ve had any issues with their Swarovski field pro connectors. To date, 103 persons queried have had no such problem. Again, I feel badly for the few that have reported a problem.

 

[Dennis Mau]

And it could be due to a solar eclipse, a typhoon in China,, Barney, the binocular dog, or someone cleaning their lenses with sandpaper.

I’m still asking birders I encounter at FL refuges and parks if they’ve had any issues with their Swarovski field pro connectors. To date, 103 persons queried have had no such problem. Again, I feel badly for the few that have reported a problem.

Your survey of 103 people is meaningless. Thousands of Swarovski binoculars are sold every year, so really only Swarovski knows the true extent of the problem, and I doubt if they would divulge how many binoculars they have seen for field pro connectors coming off. The point is there should not be ANY field pro connectors breaking, but yet there are several confirmed cases here on Bird Forum, so there are probably more people that have had this problem that have simply had them fixed under warranty without broadcasting the issue.

If there was only ONE case of a field pro connector falling off, it is an issue because there should not be ANY. It is like saying if the brakes go out in just a few cars or the side panels fly off of a Tesla truck, it is not a widespread enough issue to worry about. It IS a big issue if it is YOUR $3000 binoculars that fall to the ground and our ruined because of a field pro mount coming off. I have NEVER heard of a traditional binocular lug falling off of a Leica, Zeiss or Nikon. Swarovski has a problem with the attachment of the field pro connectors, even if it is just a few that have failed, and it needs to be fixed.

 

[GrampaTom]

And it could be due to a solar eclipse, a typhoon in China,, Barney, the binocular dog, or someone cleaning their lenses with sandpaper.

I’m still asking birders I encounter at FL refuges and parks if they’ve had any issues with their Swarovski field pro connectors. To date, 103 persons queried have had no such problem. Again, I feel badly for the few that have reported a problem.

103 is a rather impressive number. Rarely see many birders with Alphas of any kind, let alone Swarovski's in tow. More data leads to better perspective. We are indeed limited in access to the good stuff. So Id say goodonya. Thanks for the effort.

 

[Owlbarred]

103 is a rather impressive number. Rarely see many birders with Alphas of any kind, let alone Swarovski's in tow. More data leads to better perspective. We are indeed limited in access to the good stuff. So Id say goodonya. Thanks for the effort.

Not really impressive. I'm blessed with a large number of renowned birding areas in FL -- e.g. Fort DeSoto, Merritt Island NWR, Honeymoon Island.... that are magnets for visiting birders.

 

[tenex]

The real question, however, should be if Swarovski is to blame for your problems or a wrong usage of your binoculairs (like those scratches you mentioned)
If it is the last one, why should Swarovski even bother to service them, let alone pay for the service?

Amen. When I saw that crazy photo of the huge gouge on the objective lens -- and blaming Swarovski for it -- I thought it was a bad joke.

Listen to yourselves. What is this?

One can't even call it a matter of faulty assumptions because there's no call for assumptions at all; 42za already stated that he takes care of his gear, and that bizarre coating problem simply happened. And you just keep at this, despite the relevant point having already changed to the difficulty of obtaining service at all in some parts of the world, vs the casual assumption that Swaro will just take care of any problem you have with their materials so it's all OK.

 

[GrampaTom]

Looks like Leitz tried the axial strap lug and concluded it a 'fail' ?





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Interesting. Is there a pic of the other side? Looks like a bit of leather still there, maybe then what was the mech that attached to the stud is still there... Not thinking that naked stud in the foreground is the whole story. Doesnt the Papillio use something like this? Round stud on bino body and attaching mech (maybe plastic) goes on strap end. Not sure. Curious.

 

[John A Roberts]

Hi Tom,

The early Trinovids used a propriety system as shown in an image from a 2014 eBay listing by leica-ur:



The slotted neck strap attachment had an internal spring to maintain the hold on the lug.


John

 

[Dennis Mau]

Not really impressive. I'm blessed with a large number of renowned birding areas in FL -- e.g. Fort DeSoto, Merritt Island NWR, Honeymoon Island.... that are magnets for visiting birders.

Hi Tom,

The early Trinovids used a propriety system as shown in an image from a 2014 eBay listing by leica-ur:

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The slotted neck strap attachment had an internal spring to maintain the hold on the lug.


John

That is actually a nice system! It is simple, secure, and it is easy to remove your strap. The only thing is I don't see how you could adjust the length of your strap.

 

[MiddleRiver]

On auction as-we-speak. No affiliation...
It does seem like a terrible idea. To me at least... I'd be curious to know whether it was a fail for Leitz or whether the market just rejected it (like the Zeiss FL use of composites/plastics for body)?

 

[John A Roberts]

The second version of the Trinovid (using Uppendahl prisms) was introduced in 1963, along with the propriety strap attachment system.
However in 1971 the attachment was changed to a standard sized loop.

The inspiration was likely from the Hasselblad medium format cameras introduced in the mid-1950's.
The lug is similar, although the detail of the strap part differs:


Images from an Amazon listing: Server Busy


John

 

[GrampaTom]

Had a Papilio for a short while. I remembered a sling attachment not unlike this. Here’s a pic. No metal stud. Sorta more elegant looking and functioning if plastic.

 

[GrampaTom]

Have lusted for Leitz Trinovid since seeing one 1970ish while just getting started with career, (aka broke). Lotta water over the falls since, they’re still quite attractive.

 

[Yarkho]

I am pleased to note that the Swarovski CL Companions use the Field Pro system, but there the connector is directly on the magnesium housing. That means, very likely, that no glue was used.

 

[Maljunulo]

The inspiration was likely from the Hasselblad film cameras introduced in the mid-1950's.
The lug is similar, although the detail of the strap part differs:

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Images from an Amazon listing: Server Busy


John

I always wanted one of those, but other things took precedence.

 

[seawatcher]

That is actually a nice system! It is simple, secure, and it is easy to remove your strap. The only thing is I don't see how you could adjust the length of your strap.

Easy to adjust the leather strap, you just tie one or more knots in it. I used to do that all the time in the 60s and 70s.
SW

 

[Boogieshrew]

Easy to adjust the leather strap, you just tie one or more knots in it. I used to do that all the time in the 60s and 70s.
SW

Old skool 😃