henry link
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Hmm.....looks like you've moved on from braggart to hoarder. You have my sympathy now. Maybe it's time for an intervention.
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Paultricounty
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I’ll be waiting for that discussion 😏. But I will say you should be ashamed of yourself having such a small room for your equipment 🤣✌🏼.
dries1
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Holy s..t Batman. Nice car by the way.
Hi, good question. I was mainly looking for 7x, but I did consider the Zeiss SF 8x32, because it has a large field of view for 8x and I read it has good 3D effect for 8x. After comparing the two, I chose the UVHD+ 7x42 for some of the reasons others have commented. Very steady view (I agree it's like image stabalizer) and great depth of field- 3d effect.Good day,
The UHVD 7x42 is hugely popular apparently. Did you also consider the UHVD 8x42 or 10x42? Why did you decide for the 7x42? The exit pupil of a 8x42 is already quite decent.
I think my question is in general: why is 7 power so popular?
Also:
- Because depth of field is so large, focusing between far and close subjects only takes a small adjustment. So for any subject in between far and close, very little or no focus adjustment at all is needed.
- Field of vision is often larger in a 7x compared to higher powers.
- I feel there are very few situations where an 8x would be needed over a 7x to ID a bird. However, I have had multiple situations where my 10x (Tract Toric 10x42) was needed over an 8x to ID small birds at distance.
For me, an 8x is just nice to have. For serious birding I like 7x and 10x. But, I have been playing with the idea of 12x in place of 10x... maybe next year.
There is nothing like the view of a good 7x for pure birding enjoyment. Also, if you are looking for ground dwelling Warblers (Swainson's, Mourning, Connecticut, etc..) or other species in dense forests, a 7x is the right tool.
The advantages of 7 power you are discribing apply for my SLC 8x42 compared with the NL 10x32 I have as well.
In general I like 10 power (and maybe 12 as well, but have no experience with that). What I like about my 8x42 is the comfort: large exit pupil, larger DOF and better suiteable for dark forests with small passerines. I don't I have to go a step further to 7 power.
I sometimes think about swapping my 8x42 for a 10x42 or 10x50, but messages like yours make me doubt again and make me appreciate the lower power.
Could it be an age thing as well? The younger you are, the more power you want? The older you are the more you appreciate the really nice view of low power? I am 39 and want as much power as possible I can hold steady. 10 power is my sweet spot, but sometimes long for 12 power (the price is simply too high). However, I am appreciating the comfort of the 8x42 more and more lately. The step to power is still far away, but I can imagine a 7x35 or so would be added in my older days.
In general I like 10 power (and maybe 12 as well, but have no experience with that). What I like about my 8x42 is the comfort: large exit pupil, larger DOF and better suiteable for dark forests with small passerines. I don't I have to go a step further to 7 power.
I sometimes think about swapping my 8x42 for a 10x42 or 10x50, but messages like yours make me doubt again and make me appreciate the lower power.
Could it be an age thing as well? The younger you are, the more power you want? The older you are the more you appreciate the really nice view of low power? I am 39 and want as much power as possible I can hold steady. 10 power is my sweet spot, but sometimes long for 12 power (the price is simply too high). However, I am appreciating the comfort of the 8x42 more and more lately. The step to power is still far away, but I can imagine a 7x35 or so would be added in my older days.
I would think of application, expectation and personal preference as the driving factors. I'm over the moon with my 5x Nikon monocular, 6x Leitz, 7x Curio, 7x HD+ on the one end and can't wait to get the amazing 12x Ultravid I tried last year. Of course there is always the background noise of "what you really need" coming all too often from those who actually have no idea of "what you really need", and yet are many times paid far more attention than deserved.
Input from others can be so very helpful, but also be a stumbling block if it leaves out the possibility that the searcher isn't interested in the same thing the opinion-giver is.
Paultricounty
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Regardless of brand of binoculars I think DOF is misused and misunderstood more than an other attribute when people describe the qualities of their binoculars.
The advantages of 7 power you are discribing apply for my SLC 8x42 compared with the NL 10x32 I have as well.
In general I like 10 power (and maybe 12 as well, but have no experience with that). What I like about my 8x42 is the comfort: large exit pupil, larger DOF and better suiteable for dark forests with small passerines. I don't I have to go a step further to 7 power.
I sometimes think about swapping my 8x42 for a 10x42 or 10x50, but messages like yours make me doubt again and make me appreciate the lower power.
Could it be an age thing as well? The younger you are, the more power you want? The older you are the more you appreciate the really nice view of low power? I am 39 and want as much power as possible I can hold steady. 10 power is my sweet spot, but sometimes long for 12 power (the price is simply too high). However, I am appreciating the comfort of the 8x42 more and more lately. The step to power is still far away, but I can imagine a 7x35 or so would be added in my older days.
Well... good thing I have an SLC 8x42 being delivered today! I'm 39 as well. 10x has also been my sweet spot. Now that I have a UVHD+ 7x42 and maybe an SLC 8x42, and have steady hands, I'd like to try a 12x to replace 10x.
Would like to hear more of your thoughts on that. What do you mean by misused and misunderstood?
Paultricounty
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I don’t want to hijack the OP , so It’s best to do a search DOF , there’s a lot of good stuff. I will say that magnification mostly determine DOF, not one brands product. People also mix up DOF (field depth) with immersive.
MiddleRiver
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Of course i want the glass with 99.99% light transmission across the entire visual spectrum (and then some), zero optical aberrations, zero glare, and sharpness edge-to-edge. But the same as when discussing high end audio with a 70 year old friend of mine, I can't help but wonder why we are so obsessed with charts, rather than the actual view in-use and in-toto.
This is a really interesting document and it makes me wonder how much of the strong-views around here, might not be the result of individual idiosyncrasies (e.g. 'color'). Not saying the numbers don't matter, but it just makes me wonder if modern high-end optics are not at the point where it matter little. Of course there is the rub - my 'little' is someone else's existential crisis
This is a really interesting document and it makes me wonder how much of the strong-views around here, might not be the result of individual idiosyncrasies (e.g. 'color'). Not saying the numbers don't matter, but it just makes me wonder if modern high-end optics are not at the point where it matter little. Of course there is the rub - my 'little' is someone else's existential crisis
You're missing the Perger-Porro Duovids.
And you are right! I really like the looks of them. Really beautiful binoculars. It ain't over 'till it's over! LOL
7x42 seems to be man of the house, standing tall and proud.
Paultricounty
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It looks like the 7 x 42 is bigger than the 10x42, I don’t remember that when I had my 8 x 42.
jafritten
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A very modern family maybe 🤔
