Curio 7x21 v Leica trinovid 8x32 HD (1 Viewer)

[truculenter aspicientis]

Ok politely, can you peeps stay on topic pls, if not please start your own post to debate. 👍

 

[Paultricounty]

That is because you don't agree with their results, and that is fine. Allbinos mainly tests the optics of the binoculars. A lot of the stuff you are talking about like blackouts, eye placement, focusers and ergonomics are very dependent on the user. Blackouts are dependent on how deep and wide your eye sockets are and grip/ergonomics are dependent on the size of your hands, and focusers can vary widely in what different people prefer. Some prefer a faster focuser and some prefer a slower focuser so for that kind of stuff you really have to try the binocular yourself. And we all know ergonomics are very user dependent. Some people like the wasp waist of the NL, and some don't.

Allbinos is giving you a starting point in your search for a binocular. They are saying here are what we think are the 10 best binoculars optically, but they aren't saying the number one choice is the best for everybody. What is valuable about Allbinos is as you say their numerical ratings. You can go down the list and select a binocular to try based on the things that are important to you.

For example, say you can't stand CA. You go down the list and find the binocular with the best CA control. Well let's see here it looks like the Zeiss FL controls CA the best, so I think I will try one or if you like a huge FOV with sharp edges you go down the list and find the binocular with the biggest FOV and the sharpest edges. Bingo, it is a Swarovski NL, so you try that one.

Those numerical ratings are very helpful and in general they are very accurate. Allbinos does prefer a flat field, huge FOV and sharp edges and those binoculars are going to be ranked at the top because they weigh heavily for those features, but that doesn't mean you have to buy an NL or SF. You might prefer the smaller FOV, softer edges and saturated colors of a UVHD. Allbinos doesn't tell you what to buy. They just tell you what they think. The final decision is yours.

You know Dennis, I think you do this on purpose, you throw a couple of jabs and low blows getting people riled up with these proposed certainties that you expect or want people to agree with you, but maybe you don’t. Then you go and post a reasonable common sense reply that’s hard to disagree with. Sometimes I think I’m responding to two different people. Well written.

 

[dorubird]

Being only £35 between these binoculars, which would you buy?
Sense says the Leica, bigger objective lens, great brand.
But in terms of image quality does anyone know which gives the best views?
I'm in a dilemma.
Thanks Gary

For a single pair of binoculars to own, Leica Trinovid 8x32 hd is more versatile than 7x21 Curio

 

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For a single pair of binoculars to own, Leica Trinovid 8x32 hd is more versatile than 7x21 Curio

No doubt! The Curio is a pocket binocular for carrying in your pocket. No way is it a birding binocular. The Leica Trinovid HD 8x32 is an all around birding binocular, but for the same amount of money, I would rather have a Zeiss Conquest HD 8x32. But that is just me.

 

[Trinovid]

For a single pair of binoculars to own, Leica Trinovid 8x32 hd is more versatile than 7x21 Curio

I wouldn't argue that this couldn't be true for many users, but there are those of us out here who value compactness more highly than whatever benefits a larger binocular brings. When I first got my 8x32 HD+ it was in my estimation a huge binocular and it's only been in the last few months that I've come to see it as a medium sized binocular.
If I could only have one, it would be either the 8x20 Ultravid or the 7x21 Curio.

 

[dorubird]

Trinovid,
My opinion is that an expensive pocket binoculars are more appreciated by a person with experience in binoculars and who knows exactly what he wants from a binoculars (or with a strongly formed opinion about bino like you). But if someone is in doubt about so much two different binoculars, like this pocket binoculars and 8x32 one, then I advise him to get a bigger one to make his life easier. The answer depends on who asks and how ask, it is not an absolute and identical answer for everyone. However, the difference between 21mm and 32mm is enormous and for a single pair of binoculars, the versatility of the larger one is obvious, especially if you want to frequently use it in cloudy areas, not only in sunny areas. But if the number one priority had been the smallest size, then obviously the choice would have been pocket one

 

[pm42]

However, the difference between 21mm and 32mm is enormous and for a single pair of binoculars, the versatility of the larger one is obvious, especially if you want to frequently use it in cloudy areas, not only in sunny areas.

Well I own the Curio and the older Trinovid 8x32. I'm not so sure about that.
To me, the Curio is more versatile: I can have them with me all the time, that the image is bright, sharp with good FOV and ER.

Bigger binoculars are more specialized tools, the ones I use when I know I'll spend a lot of time watching wildlife or so.

 

[gweller]

No doubt! The Curio is a pocket binocular for carrying in your pocket. No way is it a birding binocular.......

That's a rather ridiculous thing to say Dennis.... any binocular is a birding binocular if you use it watch birds through. I've used mine many times as a birding binocular when out and about, and with great pleasure and success. Now I suppose you are going to come up with some pretentious definition of the ultimate birding binocular which by some bizarre coincidence just happens to exactly fit your current "flavour of the month" bins. I wait with baited breath......

 

[Trinovid]

Well I own the Curio and the older Trinovid 8x32. I'm not so sure about that.
To me, the Curio is more versatile: I can have them with me all the time, that the image is bright, sharp with good FOV and ER.

Bigger binoculars are more specialized tools, the ones I use when I know I'll spend a lot of time watching wildlife or so.

I own them both too and agree with this summary, that the more easily carried high quality binocular is the most versatile, with all my larger binoculars fitting more easily into the specialty category. More powerful, but for me, much less often used due to the additional baggage they become simply due to their size and weight.

 

[David N]

Which of these would give the best views?
I know the Leica are larger objective, but both similar in cost. £630 swaro v £695 Leica.

What would you buy?

Thanks Gary

Hello Gary.

I have just recently purchased the Curio 7x21 here in the UK. I wanted a pair of binoculars for a very specific purpose "a pair that fits into the front pocket of 501's' basically a pair that I take with me all the time. Trinovid a member on BF was very helpful in advising me on my selection and in fact suggested that I put Curio into the mix.

There are only two contenders Leica Ultravid 8x20 and the Curio 7x21. I was able to get both delivered to me on a sale and return basis so I could compare them both side by side. The Curio's for me are perfect slightly larger than the Ultravids but more comfortable handling wise and the 7x21 view is amazing.

See if you find a place that sells both types of binoculars you are interested in and order them so you can evaluate them at your leisure.

Happy hunting
David

Northampton 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

 

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That's a rather ridiculous thing to say Dennis.... any binocular is a birding binocular if you use it watch birds through. I've used mine many times as a birding binocular when out and about, and with great pleasure and success. Now I suppose you are going to come up with some pretentious definition of the ultimate birding binocular which by some bizarre coincidence just happens to exactly fit your current "flavour of the month" bins. I wait with baited breath......

You can use the Curio 7x21 for birding if you absolutely need small size, pocketability and light weight, but I don't consider it the best birding tool. I think for most people, a good 8x32 will serve them better for birding. An 8x32 is more comfortable to use with easier eye placement and performs better in low light. I would take a Leica Trinovid 8x32 or any good 8x32 any day over a Curio 7x21 for birding if I don't have a need to carry the binoculars in my pocket.

 

[Paultricounty]

That's a rather ridiculous thing to say Dennis.... any binocular is a birding binocular if you use it watch birds through. I've used mine many times as a birding binocular when out and about, and with great pleasure and success. Now I suppose you are going to come up with some pretentious definition of the ultimate birding binocular which by some bizarre coincidence just happens to exactly fit your current "flavour of the month" bins. I wait with baited breath......

Not that I really want to agree with Dennis again , I think I’ve reached my monthly quota , but he does make a good point.
Of course any optic can be used for birding, but that doesn’t make it a birding binocular. A Honda CVR can be used for racing, but it’s not a racing car, a handgun can be used for hunting, but it’s not a hunting gun.

I’m with you , the Curio are great binoculars but fall a little short in many birding environments.

I think Dennis might have a ghost writer ir somebody editing his posts. Just kidding Dennis ✌🏼🙏

 

[Trinovid]

...a handgun can be used for hunting, but it’s not a hunting gun.

 

[Trinovid]

I have just recently purchased the Curio 7x21 here in the UK. I wanted a pair of binoculars for a very specific purpose "a pair that fits into the front pocket of 501's' basically a pair that I take with me all the time. There are only two contenders Leica Ultravid 8x20 and the Curio 7x21...and the 7x21 view is amazing.

Those just might become your favorite-forever binoculars!

 

[gweller]

Not that I really want to agree with Dennis again , I think I’ve reached my monthly quota , but he does make a good point.
Of course any optic can be used for birding, but that doesn’t make it a birding binocular. A Honda CVR can be used for racing, but it’s not a racing car, a handgun can be used for hunting, but it’s not a hunting gun.

I’m with you , the Curio are great binoculars but fall a little short in many birding environments.

I think Dennis might have a ghost writer ir somebody editing his posts. Just kidding Dennis ✌🏼🙏

Totally agree that there are some binoculars with attributes that make them more suitable for birding than others. I was just trying to bring some nuances to Dennis statement that the Curios are not a birding bin.

 

[Trinovid]

Totally agree that there are some binoculars with attributes that make them more suitable for birding than others. I was just trying to bring some nuances to Dennis statement that the Curios are not a birding bin.

I've been able to watch eagles pretty easily with mine.

 

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Not that I really want to agree with Dennis again , I think I’ve reached my monthly quota , but he does make a good point.
Of course any optic can be used for birding, but that doesn’t make it a birding binocular. A Honda CVR can be used for racing, but it’s not a racing car, a handgun can be used for hunting, but it’s not a hunting gun.

I’m with you , the Curio are great binoculars but fall a little short in many birding environments.

I think Dennis might have a ghost writer ir somebody editing his posts. Just kidding Dennis ✌🏼🙏

"Of course any optic can be used for birding, but that doesn’t make it a birding binocular. A Honda CVR can be used for racing, but it’s not a racing car, a handgun can be used for hunting, but it’s not a hunting gun."

That is a perfect point and very well said!

 

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Try hitting a Deer at 300 yards with it, though!

 

[John M Robinson]

I’m a huge Curio fan, I bought one spontaneously after being shown one, it just blew me away. That said, if I was limited to just one binocular for all around use, it would be an 8x32 or 7x35.

 

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Totally agree that there are some binoculars with attributes that make them more suitable for birding than others. I was just trying to bring some nuances to Dennis statement that the Curios are not a birding bin.

I guess I should have said they are not the sharpest tool in the toolbox for birding.