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Zeiss victory T FL 8x32 and Nikon Monarch thoughts? (4 Viewers)
- Thread starter florken
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Ditto, never noticed this problem with my FL either.
Based upon reviews and the replies (which are very usefull - thx to everybody) on the forum the FL has a less vivid color reproduction when compared with Leica. Does anybody have a picture of a bird or object which illustrates how the colors are generated by the FL compared to a "warmer" set of binoculars - this would help me a lot.
The Zeiss may present a less "vivid" view for some, but it is much more true to life... Leica seems to emphasize reds and browns and produce an almost oversaturated appearance. The Zeiss is most certainly brighter and, in my opinion, produces a sharper image due to control of CA - none of the Leica I've tried have been even remotely as good as the Zeiss in terms of CA control.
The Leica view is very nice but I have to agree with JR about the colours. I would hesitate to describe the Leica colours has being wrong in some way but they do often seem to me to exaggerate the reds and browns a little just as JR describes.
Lee
temmie
Well-known member
If you hesitate about the colours, try any Leica next to any FL (e.g. 10*42), as the colour rendition difference stays the same among different configurations.
In any way, I sold my 8x32 T-FL lotutec because I already had a 7x42 and decided one binocular was enough. I sold it for around 850 mint with everything in the box (warranty etc, about 5 years old)
625 is a good price and it would be still possible to re-sell for at least the same money.
In any way, I sold my 8x32 T-FL lotutec because I already had a 7x42 and decided one binocular was enough. I sold it for around 850 mint with everything in the box (warranty etc, about 5 years old)
625 is a good price and it would be still possible to re-sell for at least the same money.
Alexis Powell
Natural history enthusiast
I've not experienced this problem with any of the other top-end bins that I've tried. Whether they work with glasses depends on the individual. Besides Swarovski (which is superb, but long), you might try Nikon's top models (EDG is also long). I've had better luck than most glasses wearers, so I can even use (though not ideal) the Leica 8x32 Ultravid models (superbly compact for 8x32). When I use an 8x32, I usually use the FL despite my complaints because it is compact in comparison to most other choices, never fails in the center of the view (lack of CA makes critical viewing at limits of resolution better), has excellent eye relief, and works well for constant close-far refocusing (which I do when butterflying+birding).
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In this thread on this forum a few years back there are simulated images for Zeiss FL and other binoculars. Post #14 shows Zeiss vs Nikon, and on a quick skim of the text of the thread for this response I cannot figure out what posts #12 and 13 show. I repeat that they are simulations, and they are made according to the perceptions of one individual. Hope this helps.
Thank you Alexis, and also others who may have been responding partly to me. Where I am it is not possible to try out before buying. I have been disappointed in many binocular purchases. So now it is back to considering the Victory 8x32 FL! (This is, of course, late in its day; I will have an interesting problem when the Zeiss replacement model for this comes along, as hinted now and then by Troubador/Lee, or the Leica Noctivid 8x32!)
Hi Florken -
If you're still looking, i just found these:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Zeiss-8x32-FL-Used-/252528186459
Still a good price if they're in good nick.
You may have to ask the seller a question or two....
If you're still looking, i just found these:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Zeiss-8x32-FL-Used-/252528186459
Still a good price if they're in good nick.
You may have to ask the seller a question or two....
No no no, I can't take the credit for just hinting when in fact more than a year ago, Stephen Ingraham of Zeiss Sports Optics USA confirmed there is an incoming SF 32mm. He predicted it might be launched at this year's Bird Fair, but as we all know this didn't happen.
The 'hinting' therefore, isn't so much about whether there will be an SF32, but about the uncertainty of when it will arrive given the lack of news emerging from Zeiss.
Lee
Thanks for the correction. I missed that: was it conveyed in this forum? If it is as long as the Swarovision that is too long for me as a 32. The Nikon Monarch-7 8x42 is just .2 inch longer than that (and 65 grams heavier than the Swaro 8x32). But I might still be tempted by a much wider field...
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Yes Stephen posted the prediction about SF32 on these pages. There has been no news at all from Zeiss about SF32 so we have no idea in what direction the 32 might go. SF 42 was such a shift from the previous paradigm of FL/HT that I remain open-minded as to whether the SF32 will simply be a scaled-down SF42 or whether if might go in a direction of its own. For example one of the main characterisitics of SF42 is its handling based on its length and the shifting of the weight of glass within it to achieve its fatigue-free handling, but I am not sure if this could be translated into a 32. In which case Zeiss might take it in a different direction.
Lee
Thank you for noticing Paddy7 - I actually saw it to and checked their home site as well- here it was listed for 579 Pounds. I contacted the company and they confirmed price and added that the set is in perfect optical condition and very minor signs of use to the body, it also comes with all accessories and warrantee card which can be transferred.
Bottom line: I bought it yesterday and it will be shipped today in order to arrive next week. I hope I made a good choice. 8-P
alan kennedy
Well-known member
Congratulations! You've made a fine choice.
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I'm only guessing, but the location was Halesworth, Suffolk - a small market town 8 miles from me. The only optics supplier i know in the locality is Viking (located there) - i wonder if it's an online subsidiary? Their ebay shop was full of optical bits and pieces. If it's as they said, congratulations on buying one of the finest birding bins!
Got my used Zeiss FL*T 8x32 binoculars this morning from Viking Optical Center located in the UK:
- Ordered on Thursday last week, got them today
- Condition is as they said - they look new to me and came with all papers and accessories except for the lens cloth.
Given the fact that this is my first "real" binocular:
- they are so easy to use, no black -outs - eye relief is spot on for me
- nicely balanced
- Very smooth focus and no need to re -focus all of the time, focussing on birds in flight works very well
- The view can be described in almost one word: BRIGHT, very pure and with excellent color rendering.
It is to soon to judge them but the first impression is just WOW
- Ordered on Thursday last week, got them today
- Condition is as they said - they look new to me and came with all papers and accessories except for the lens cloth.
Given the fact that this is my first "real" binocular:
- they are so easy to use, no black -outs - eye relief is spot on for me
- nicely balanced
- Very smooth focus and no need to re -focus all of the time, focussing on birds in flight works very well
- The view can be described in almost one word: BRIGHT, very pure and with excellent color rendering.
It is to soon to judge them but the first impression is just WOW
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