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Hi Martin

Watch yourself round there mate its full of chavs, me and kempy could maybe just about fit in, but i reckon you're pushing your luck! Hahaha
 
Just had a look on google maps at the fishing ponds at Bransholme, it looks like its got potential.Maybe the chavbirders have been up there?
BTW you don't think you would get mugged by non birding chavs up there do you?Just a bit concerned about carrying a grands worth of gear about on Bransholme?

After the Great Grey Shrike and Long-eared Owl (who's roost area got torched by the way) before the fishing pond was formed I regularly visited this area and on one day alone shortly after the Shrike had a male Redstart, Wheatear and a Linnet with a white crown which made my heart miss a beat or two. I then also thought it obviously had good potential but was never happy leaving my car, which was often parked out of sight behind an embankment bordering Bransholme Road. To make matters worse a family of gippos...sorry Travellers...had made the area at the end of the road their home. I often visited the area when finishing work early and if nearby but it's one of those areas you always feel uncomfortable and often intimidated by any of the local pikeys that may be passing looking for trouble. One early summer's evening I thought I would check it out for calling Quail only to see two plumes of smoke rising in the distance. Thinking it can't be Red Indians I soon discovered two Ford Fiesta's on fire. I than called Bransholme Fire station and lost all interest in birding the area.

I also birded the area around the old Longhill Nurseries for a short while having found 3 Waxwings along opposite the golf course and flushed a Woodcock from the official nature reserve area. One evening 2 Council workmen were digging ditches along the footpaths to deter numpties on mopeds and erecting a stile and kissing gate. Next morning the gate and stile had gone, no doubt featuring in some local garden and a large area of grass that had been planted with young trees had been torched, and the only pond on the reserve had 2 traffic cones, a shopping trolley, half a moped and about half of ton of timber in it (not the kissing gate and stile I hasten to add!). I'm afraid the only good patch to be found in 'ull is a nicotine patch. Thank God for Spurn! :smoke::-C
 
nah, I birded that Bransholme area for a while, and still visit, and never had any bother. Chavs don't go there much, it's mainly the odd motorbike and dog walker. the area at the end of the road is now a council depot, and there's a fishing bailiff at the ponds, so you're usually safe. There's the odd airgun, but they're usually dozy kids, and the council have cracked down on them and the bikes. I used to take a scope and bins and you rarely bump into anyone except people fishing at the pond. As for parking, just park in one of the streets at top of Bransholme Rd or on Nth Bransholme (Ladyside or Dalkeith close) and cross the dyke (it's rarely more than 6" deep). You're at no more risk than anywhere else in Hull (except Craven Park).

Best time of day is early, obviously, before dog walkers get going. Or during the week. It can be pretty good in early May - 7 species of warbler, cuckoo, barn owl, the odd marsh harrier, merlin and peregrine, turtle dove, plus occasional redstart etc. Whinchat and wheatear are fairly regular on passage.

It used to have breeding LRP, Snipe and Redshank, and the fields just to the north get waders when they flood a bit (like they are now and last year) - had 4 Temminck's Stints in a week during the 80s, regular Ruff, Whimbrel, Common/Green Sand etc. The area round the fishing ponds still gets waders - whimbrel, snipe, jack snipe and lapwing. Best fields for waders are the two at the east end, which have horses grazing and are fenced - they have open bits of water and regularly have 20-30 snipe and fairly regular jack snipe. Breeding lapwing too.

I've had 127 species there. here's the site list:

Little Grebe Tachybaptus ruficollis A
Great Crested Grebe Podiceps cristatus A
Great Cormorant Phalacrocorax carbo A
Grey Heron Ardea cinerea A
Mute Swan Cygnus olor AC
Whooper Swan Cygnus cygnus A
Pink-footed Goose Anser brachyrhynchus A
Greylag Goose Anser anser AC
Canada Goose Branta canadensis AC
Barnacle Goose Branta leucopsis A
Common Shelduck Tadorna tadorna A
Eurasian Wigeon Anas penelope A
Eurasian Teal Anas crecca A
Mallard Anas platyrhynchos AC
Shoveler Anas clypeata
Tufted Duck Aythya fuligula A
Common Pochard
Common Goldeneye Bucephala clangula A
Eurasian Marsh Harrier Circus aeruginosus A
Eurasian Sparrowhawk Accipiter nisus A
Common Kestrel Falco tinnunculus A
Merlin Falco columbarius A
Eurasian Hobby Falco subbuteo A
Peregrine Falcon Falco peregrinus A
Red-legged Partridge Alectoris rufa C
Grey Partridge Perdix perdix AC
Common Pheasant Phasianus colchicus C
Water Rail Rallus aquaticus A
Common Moorhen Gallinula chloropus A
Common Coot Fulica atra A
Eurasian Oystercatcher Haematopus ostralegus A
Little Ringed Plover Charadrius dubius A
Ringed Plover Charadrius hiaticula A
European Golden Plover Pluvialis apricaria A
Northern Lapwing Vanellus vanellus A
Dunlin Calidris alpina A
Jack Snipe Lymnocryptes minimus A
Common Snipe Gallinago gallinago A
Eurasian Woodcock Scolopax rusticola A
Whimbrel Numenius phaeopus A
Eurasian Curlew Numenius arquata A
Common Redshank Tringa totanus A
Green Sandpiper Tringa ochropus A
Common Sandpiper Actitis hypoleucos A
Ruff Philomachus pugnax
Ruddy Turnstone Arenaria interpres A
Black-headed Gull Larus ridibundus A
Common Gull Larus canus A
Lesser Black-backed Gull Larus fuscus A
Herring Gull Larus argentatus A
Great Black-backed Gull Larus marinus A
Feral Pigeon Columba livia AC
Stock Pigeon Columba oenas A
Common Wood Pigeon Columba palumbus A
Eurasian Collared Dove Streptopelia decaocto A
European Turtle Dove Streptopelia turtur A
Common Cuckoo Cuculus canorus A
Barn Owl Tyto alba A
Little Owl Athene noctua C
Tawny Owl Strix aluco A
Long-eared Owl Asio otus A
Short-eared Owl Asio flammeus A
Common Swift Apus apus A
Common Kingfisher Alcedo atthis A
Great Spotted Woodpecker Dendrocopos major A
Green Woodpecker Picus viridis
Sky Lark Alauda arvensis A
Sand Martin Riparia riparia A
Barn Swallow Hirundo rustica A
House Martin Delichon urbica A
Meadow Pipit Anthus pratensis A
Yellow Wagtail Motacilla flava A
Grey Wagtail Motacilla cinerea A
Pied Wagtail Motacilla alba A
(White Wagtail Motacilla alba )
Bohemian Waxwing Bombycilla garrulus A
Winter Wren Troglodytes troglodytes A
Hedge Accentor Prunella modularis A
European Robin Erithacus rubecula A
Common Redstart Phoenicurus phoenicurus A
Whinchat Saxicola rubetra A
Stonechat Saxicola torquata A
Northern Wheatear Oenanthe oenanthe A
Common Blackbird Turdus merula A
Fieldfare Turdus pilaris A
Song Thrush Turdus philomelos A
Redwing Turdus iliacus A
Mistle Thrush Turdus viscivorus A
Sedge Warbler Acrocephalus schoenobaenus A
Eurasian Reed Warbler Acrocephalus scirpaceus A
Grasshopper Warbler Locustella naevia A
Lesser Whitethroat Sylvia curruca A
Common Whitethroat Sylvia communis A
Blackcap Sylvia atricapilla A
Common Chiffchaff Phylloscopus collybita A
Willow Warbler Phylloscopus trochilus A
Goldcrest Regulus regulus A
Spotted Flycatcher Muscicapa striata A
Red-breasted Flycatcher Ficedula parva A
Long-tailed Tit Aegithalos caudatus A
Willow Tit Parus montanus A
Coal Tit Parus ater A
Blue Tit Parus caeruleus A
Great Tit Parus major A
Eurasian Treecreeper Certhia familiaris A
Great Grey Shrike Lanius excubitor A
Eurasian Jay Garrulus glandarius A
Black-billed Magpie Pica pica A
Eurasian Jackdaw Corvus monedula A
Rook Corvus frugilegus A
Carrion Crow Corvus corone A
Hooded Crow Corvus cornix A
Common Starling Sturnus vulgaris A
House Sparrow Passer domesticus A
Eurasian Tree Sparrow Passer montanus A
Chaffinch Fringilla coelebs A
Brambling Fringilla montifringilla A
European Greenfinch Carduelis chloris A
European Goldfinch Carduelis carduelis A
Siskin Carduelis spinosa
Lesser Redpoll Carduelis cabaret
Common Linnet Carduelis cannabina A
Common Bullfinch Pyrrhula pyrrhula A
Yellowhammer Emberiza citrinella A
Reed Bunting Emberiza schoeniclus A
Snow Bunting Plectrophenax nivalis
Lapland Bunting Calcarius lapponicus
Corn Bunting Miliaria calandra A

(plus Temminck's and Little Stint 2 fields away)
 
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One early summer's evening I thought I would check it out for calling Quail

I had quail twice during the 1990s just north of the fishing ponds area in the big field south of Carlam Hill Farm, between Holderness drain and North Bransholme Health Centre. Had a marsh harrier hunting along the Holderness drain there on the same day as one of them. Brett Richards used to birds that field before they drained it - it's where he found all those Temminck's and a flock of Lap Bunts. It's all cereals now - good for quail but still the odd nesting lapwing.
 
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I had quail twice during the 1990s just north of the fishing ponds area in the big field south of Carlam Hill Farm, between Holderness drain and North Bransholme Health Centre. Had a marsh harrier hunting along the Holderness drain there on the same day as one of them. Brett Richards used to birds that field before they drained it - it's where he found all those Temminck's and a flock of Lap Bunts. It's all cereals now - good for quail but still the odd nesting lapwing.


hey Poecile

nice bransholme list!! but hey mate c'mon the old craven park isnt that bad! this aint the place for that try hull daily mail thats where all the rugby lads slate each other on the comments page haha!

kempy

hull k.r 24 - st helens 22

lol sorry couldnt help that it slipped out. joking apart tho..gonna have to check this place its onli ten mins away too ;D

http://chavtwitchers.blogspot.com/
 
Just returned from a very cool couple of days up in Aberdeen. Will post my bits & pieces on my blog but suffice to say i dipped King Eider. Both of them. And Glaucous Gull despite sleeping 200yards from where it is normally reported.
 
hey Poecile

nice bransholme list!! but hey mate c'mon the old craven park isnt that bad! this aint the place for that try hull daily mail thats where all the rugby lads slate each other on the comments page haha!

kempy

hull k.r 24 - st helens 22

lol sorry couldnt help that it slipped out. joking apart tho..gonna have to check this place its onli ten mins away too ;D

http://chavtwitchers.blogspot.com/


Thought I'd slip it in, see if anyone took the bait! I saw someone had "Pride of East Hull" on their profile, so see if I got a bite! LOL Good win for Rovers the other day, I must say, even though I lean towards FC myself (my have to switch this season though - what an injury list!).

I've got a load of site visit counts computerised for the past several years - there was a project going on there at one point - so can email them over if you want to see what an average visit looks like. PM me with an email address. It would defo reward someone as a local patch, as it turns up good stuff now and again. 'Bout time it got more attention of the right kind too - the council tried making it into a golf course (bye bye LRP and redshank), and the local community group currently wants to build a horse-rding centre on half of it (bye bye everything else), but I think the council rejected it for the time being. The more records (site counts, breeding numbers etc) sent to the council's conservation dept, from more people, the more they'll take notice of the conservation value for locals too. And it might get decent management for birds and wildlife (there's roe deer, harvest mouse and great crested newt on there too).
 
Hi Poecile, superb Bransholme list,didn't realise that there was so much stuff within a 10min drive.
Do you have any details for the council conservation dept?
Most of my local birding is done on East Park walking the dog, would they be interested in those lists?
 
Down at Potteric Carr today paying my subs for the year. Only a flying visit as I had a lot on and getting stuck behind Dick Head the HGV driver on the A1 lost me loads of time. I did find lesser redpoll outside the reserve office, along with a cracking male bullfinch who was sat at the top of a hawthorn bush singing?? away. Not much else though in the short time I was there, just the usual tits and finches.
 
Thought I'd slip it in, see if anyone took the bait! I saw someone had "Pride of East Hull" on their profile, so see if I got a bite! LOL Good win for Rovers the other day, I must say, even though I lean towards FC myself (my have to switch this season though - what an injury list!).QUOTE]

Just come in but must admit I am a KR fan and was close to biting! Thanks for defending the Pride of East Hull Kempy. Despite being red and white I do sympathise with FC's injury list but they are head and shoulders above most others in terms of development with their crop of youngsters who will see them through until others come back.

Must agree, a really impressive list for the area no doubt as a result of some hard work and dedicated birding and recording which obviously paid dividends. RB Fly and Green Woodpecker are impressive records. I haven't been around there for years now but I did know Brett once birded the area when he lived opposite, nice bloke and top birder! :t:
 
Hi Poecile, superb Bransholme list,didn't realise that there was so much stuff within a 10min drive.
Do you have any details for the council conservation dept?
Most of my local birding is done on East Park walking the dog, would they be interested in those lists?

Yep, any records from anywhere in Hull are gratefully received, apparently. They need them to get an idea of the wildlife in the city and what areas may need attention - one of the reasons the horsey thing got turned down at Bransholme Fishing Ponds, and why it got 'Country Park' status, is on the basis of the annual census records I and others sent for years. Before that, Kingswood were eyeing it up. If records weren't sent in, nobody would have known a thing about what was there.

Not just birds either - any mammal, butterfly, plants lists/numbers. It all goes in their database. The City Ecologist at the council is Jon Capel - details at the bottom of this page: http://www.hullcc.gov.uk/hullinprint/archive/aprmay2005/nature_in_the.php

He's a very busy bloke though, and has a bit of an off-hand manner by all accounts, so you might not get much in the way of response, but the records will get into the database, which is the main thing. He used to have help in the form of Shona Turnbull, who was more approachable, but she's left/leaving. She used to be the one to send records to, so might be an idea just to ring the number on that page (300300) or email Jon and ask where to send wildlife records these days and double check that Jon is still the bloke to send them to.

Can try a google for the East Riding contact too, as same applies.
 
Must agree, a really impressive list for the area no doubt as a result of some hard work and dedicated birding and recording which obviously paid dividends. RB Fly and Green Woodpecker are impressive records. I haven't been around there for years now but I did know Brett once birded the area when he lived opposite, nice bloke and top birder! :t:

Is Brett still peering out to sea off Hornsea? He found some cracking birds at Bransholme, shows the value of regular visits. That list is mainly his and mine and a couple of others since about 1990. I only visit about half a dozen times a year now, when in the area, but always see something worthwhile even if it's just Stonechat or Buzzard (both decent birds for Hull). Noticed I missed a few species: kittiwake, Fulmar, iceland and Glaucous gulls, Spotshank, mentioned in the 'Birds of the Hull Area' book which has a site guide (but it's called 'North Bransholme'). Covers East Park with a species/breeding list too - cracking site list there: Red-rumped Swallow, Temminck's stint, Hoopoe, Laughing Gull and Yank Wigeon!
 
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Just returned from a very cool couple of days up in Aberdeen. Will post my bits & pieces on my blog but suffice to say i dipped King Eider. Both of them. And Glaucous Gull despite sleeping 200yards from where it is normally reported.

Just back from Norfolk. Couldn't believe my bad luck. Thick fog, yet full sunshine just fifteen miles inland on Wednesday. Got one half decent shot of the Sparrow, (the primary reason for going down). Much less frequent in appearance now than when it was on the driveway. At least it was so close that I could still make it out.

Then had a Bittern through the mist near Sheringham that even puts the Potteric views to shame. Fully out constantly in an area no bigger than an average garden - amazing. Went back today for brief views of the Bittern and got a few shots. Poor thing was just about encircled by numpty photographers. I've witnessed some terrible fieldcraft these last two days - mainly from aged birders who should know better.

Most amazing thing was my hotel. I knew it was next door to Carrow Road, what I didn't know until I drew the curtains this morning is you get a full stonking view of the pitch. You Hull boys would have loved it a couple of days ago. Reminded me of the Porridge episode when the bloke's about to dig up Elland Road and the lights go on. It was a case this morning of blumming heck what's that doing there!
 
Just thought I would share this shot with you(just found it again) ,taken a few years back in Leeds City centre (Park place).
She raised 4 young ones,it was amazing really as there were 3 pair nesting in the row of street lights,probably still there!!!!!!
 

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