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Which formats of Ultravid have eyecups which are too short...? (2 Viewers)

Oh boy ... one of these days ... when I go up to The Smoke ... I shall venture into the Leica store and make a complete pita of myself by trying out the 8x32 Trinnies and Uvids, and possibly the 7x42 and 10x50 Uvids as well.
(But first I shall buy a new 8x30W Habicht at the end of next month. And do that 10x40 GA eyecup hack. YAY!)
 
Oh boy ... one of these days ... when I go up to The Smoke ... I shall venture into the Leica store and make a complete pita of myself by trying out the 8x32 Trinnies and Uvids, and possibly the 7x42 and 10x50 Uvids as well.
(But first I shall buy a new 8x30W Habicht at the end of next month. And do that 10x40 GA eyecup hack. YAY!)
Its a funny old thing, the Habicht 8x30's are such a compelling binocular for so many reasons and I very much regretted letting my eldest son have mine as his retirement present after 30 years in the Army. But I did buy another pair from Clifton as the itch needed scratching but sadly they fell short of the 'as Mint' condition and were returned pronto.

The itch, which is so contagious as poor @Bentley03 knows only too well, remained until today when the clouds parted and in front of my very eyes through a Tartan Mist, was a brand new pair at Bushwear in Bonny Scotland, for £685. That is a serious reduction from £930ish and needed stamping on sharpish.

Duly stamped.
 
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Hi Bentley. I could have almost guessed the response of going out with those UV 12X50 bins. I'd be slow to give up mine.
Your experience watching a barn owl brings to me many memories of the 30+ years of watching fledglings leave the nesting box in our farm barn. The Seven Mountains Audubon Society banded many barn owl fledglings over those years.
 

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I christened them yesterday afternoon and despite the cold and the fog/mist and dampness in the air, they truly, truly sparkled.
Yesterday's weather was a little brighter, still dull, but the fog/mist we've experienced over the past few days had more or less cleared. There were far more birds on the wing, so I was better able to assess how the 12x50's worked for me as a daytime handheld binocular.
For a relatively hefty binocular, I found I was able to deploy them and settle on a target surprisingly quickly. I've found a point of contact for the eyecups in the roof of my eye sockets which I am able to hit reliably after very little practice, which sets eye relief (with the standard two click-stop eyecups fully extended) at a level which minimises blackouts and allows me to pan comfortably whilst following a target. As a handheld birding binocular, they do work remarkably well. And adding to the panning comfort, which is admittedly easier on the horizontal than the vertical, due to the weight of the binocular, I find the speed of focus to be just right, small inputs of rotation enough to keep a target accurately in focus without over rotating and going through the point of fine focus. The focus movement on my copy is perfectly smooth, with the tension nicely weighted in both directions, and gave perfect 'feel' through my gloves. I judge the usability of a large objective binocular based on my ability to quickly deploy and settle on a target. For their size, these Ultravids have extraordinary agility, I'd have no hesitation carrying them on a daily basis, especially through the winter with shorter days and more frequent dull overcast days.

I owned a pair of 10x50 Ultravid when I was still wearing glasses, but for some reason, the combination of me, my glasses and those binoculars generated unacceptable levels of CA which I was unable to reduce sufficiently through changing eye placement and angle of view, so they were returned (this was almost certainly due to eye relief being too borderline wearing glasses). On my first outing with the 12x50's two days ago, I was unaware of any CA whatsoever, and almost reported as much. I was wondering if my 10x50 copy had been a lemon. But yesterday, following red kites on the wing, there it was, the well documented Ultravid CA. I experimented changing the angle I looked through the binocular, and after a little practice eradicated CA in all but the very periphery of the view, but this will require further practice and experimentation to reduce it to a level at which I'm unaware of it. I'm hoping the five click-stop eyecups might help with this, when they arrive.

Will report further when I receive the other eyecups, but so far, (apart from the CA) I'm absolutely delighted with how they are performing, handheld.
 
I am adding a correction to post #23. The last line should be; ............Society provided connections to bird banding personnel who banded many barn owl fledglings during those years.
 
They should. Neither I nor my wife are bothered by blackouts, or by CA unless we go looking for it. It is as you say an easy and natural bin to use despite the magnification, just a tad hefty; enjoy it!
it's strange, I don't like CA at all, especially in expensive binos, but I didn't have problems with the 10x50 or 8x50 UVHD with CA - maybe it is exacerbated by eye placement issues. Or maybe there's a touch more at 12x.

Agree on the handling factor with these - that was my favorite aspect of them - the light feel and ease of handling them, for a 50mm. Maybe a combination of the light weight, small size, and smooth natural shape of the body. These are my favorite 50's...not a fan of Swaro's over-complicated designs.
 
I don't have a great deal of experience with the Ultravid range, but as a more general comment, I've found binoculars that are a little tight on eye relief with glasses can be really comfortable when used without. Some short eye relief binoculars with not much eye relief (eg many 8x30s and also 7x35 wide angles) can be quite exacting until you've learned how to put them to your eyes, but models with eye relief in the - roughly speaking - about 12-14mm true ER class often seem much more forgiving.

I think I might have mentioned it to you, @bentley - 12x50 is not my favourite magnification, but it is undeniably very useful at times. The extra reach comes in really handy with hobbies as the little blighters are small and yet range so far. My 12x50B gets used quite a lot in May and June.
 
I don't have a great deal of experience with the Ultravid range, but as a more general comment, I've found binoculars that are a little tight on eye relief with glasses can be really comfortable when used without. Some short eye relief binoculars with not much eye relief (eg many 8x30s and also 7x35 wide angles) can be quite exacting until you've learned how to put them to your eyes, but models with eye relief in the - roughly speaking - about 12-14mm true ER class often seem much more forgiving.

I think I might have mentioned it to you, @bentley - 12x50 is not my favourite magnification, but it is undeniably very useful at times. The extra reach comes in really handy with hobbies as the little blighters are small and yet range so far. My 12x50B gets used quite a lot in May and June.
As you know, I've only quite recently started using binoculars without glasses again, and I'm finding all sorts of anomalies with binoculars which worked perfectly for me with glasses, but with which I am having difficulties finding a comfortable set up without glasses, and vice versa.

I'm actually indulging increasingly in 12x formats for handheld use, with very few issues managing to reveal more detail with the extra magnification, than with lower power bins. I'm maybe becoming a high power junkie, as I'm feeling a reluctance to leave my 12x50 Ultravid at home, and my 12x50 SRBC has seen a lot of action recently. But I really, really love the 12x50 Ultravid...❤️
 
I am with you on those 12X50 Ultravids. They are fine in the more open areas, however in the deep woods my "go to" bins are the SLC 7X30 Swaros or a pair of Zeiss Classic 7X42 , older but with more depth of field. Those small birds are easier to locate and keep in view. I am not a "one size fits all" when it comes to binoculars.
 
Its a funny old thing, the Habicht 8x30's are such a compelling binocular for so many reasons and I very much regretted letting my eldest son have mine as his retirement present after 30 years in the Army. But I did buy another pair from Clifton as the itch needed scratching but sadly they fell short of the 'as Mint' condition and were returned pronto.

The itch, which is so contagious as poor @Bentley03 knows only too well, remained until today when the clouds parted and in front of my very eyes through a Tartan Mist, was a brand new pair at Bushwear in Bonny Scotland, for £685. That is a serious reduction from £930ish and needed stamping on sharpish.

Duly stamped.
I saw them and hovered… I don’t need two pairs though..great deal!
 
Hello, I'm new here. I'm the owner of 10x32 ultravids, I love them but need deeper eyecups. I'm really keen to find out more about the five click eyecups!
EDIT - I've read the thread more carefully now. Does anyone know of a "donor" model that might offer 5 stop eyecups on the 10x32 ultravids?
many thanks
 
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I'm the owner of 10x32 ultravids, I love them but need deeper eyecups. I'm really keen to find out more about the five click eyecups!
Does anyone know of a "donor" model that might offer 5 stop eyecups on the 10x32 ultravids?
I'd like to have them for both my 10x32 and 8x32 Ultravids.
 
As you know, I've only quite recently started using binoculars without glasses again, and I'm finding all sorts of anomalies with binoculars which worked perfectly for me with glasses, but with which I am having difficulties finding a comfortable set up without glasses, and vice versa.

I'm actually indulging increasingly in 12x formats for handheld use,
Yes, and it's been enjoyable reading through your new journey of discovery. Fit to face is so critical - and that's so different with and without glasses. If you're going from observing with to observing without you'll probably be almost having to learn how to look through some of your binos again.

My own 12x50 is unsuited for closer-in/more regular birding but no doubt it can be done - I think the NL 12x42 was designed for just that purpose - easy handling and focus speed seems relatively quick. I think at average birding distances 12x isn't necessary for species identification (seeing field marks etc) under the great majority of circumstances, but a good number of folks do seem to want "a bigger view" of the bird, and 12x does give you that.

" Who hovers saves"
That made me wonder whether that perception still holds today - with the advent of FPV drones, loitering munitions etc?
 
Does anyone know of a "donor" model that might offer 5 stop eyecups on the 10x32 ultravids?
I'd like to have them for both my 10x32 and 8x32 Ultravids.
No, but you could always ask Leica for advice. Generally there would have to be another (usually lower magnification) model with more ER whose eyecups are interchangeable, but going by the specs this is not the case here: only two models with virtually identical ER. (Trinovid could remove an eyecup from each and see whether there's any difference at all.) You can twist them out one last click to the removal position and see how much that helps, although a risk arises of pulling them off with the rainguard. Or just try not to press them quite so firmly into your eye sockets; it will be only ~2mm difference.
 

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