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Thursley Common (1 Viewer)

Ruby

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Just thought I'd share a great day that I had in Thursley Common (Surrey) in July.

I parked up in the Moat car-park and walked round the side of the pond onto the common. I immediately got a great view of a male stonechat singing its little heart out from atop of a gorse bush. This was a lovely bird - very good condition and beautifully lit on a bright sunny day.

This was the first of many stonechats that I saw that day - they're so accommodating! sitting there in plain view for ages until you can get a really good look.

My main intended quarry that day was Dartford Warblers and I know that warblers generally can be a bit elusive and the DW is not all that common - I needed a plan!!

I spent a while beforehand bone-ing up on heathland bird song (Collins Field Guide CD) - theory being that even if I couldn't SEE a DW, if I could HEAR it I could just loiter until such time as it showed itself!

Before too long I started to hear one calling from a little way off, and crept closer.... and then spent about half an hour looking at empty gorse bushes! Eventually, the bird in question capitulated and popped up to sit on top of a bush - just a brief 10 second view, but long enough to confirm a sighting.

One thing that I did notice throughout the day - Dartford Warblers are never as far away as they sound as if they should be (does that make sense?) I evolved a technique whereby I estimated where I thought the sound was coming from, but then started looking at about half that distance. It seemed to work well - anyone else heard of this ventriloquism thing??

Walking on for a bit, a DW then burst into song immediately in front of me - and there is was, sat on a dead tree not 20 feet away. What a great view as it just sat there for ages, alternately telling me off for intruding and singing away to its pals.

As I walked towards the eastern end of the common, I started to see loads more DWs including lots of young juveniles. These birds seemed either very stupid or very trusting, as they just sat on their bush until you were about 10 feet away and then just hopped INTO the gorse bush. Given that many of these bushes were only a foot or so tall, it wouldn't have afforded a great deal of protection. An enterprising cat could have mopped them all up without any problem.

I was watching a stonechat through my BINs when I heard a noise quite close to me. 'Hmmm, sounds like a Grasshopper Warbler', I thought. I just re-directed my BINs in time to see the famous LBJ pop out onto a grass tussock. My id-ing skills are not up to much, but even I couldn't be in any doubt as it sat there for a minute or so, doing grasshopper impersonations in plain view.

The day was complete when I spotted a grey wagtail (a first for me) by a little stream over by the lakes.

What a fantastic day!!!

Just in case you're starting to think that I'm one of those really lucky birders (you know - drive the car out into the countryside and an Osprey lands on the roofrack) let me assure you that I have my bad days too.

My current nemesis is the bearded tit!!

I would love to see one of those guys and have visited 5 reserves this Summer where they are reputedly common (Oare Marshes*3, Stodmarsh & Radipole) but so far have come up empty. I HAVE spent many a happy hour staring at empty reedbeds while you can hear the little so-and-sos calling right in front of you.

Even Mrs Ruby has seen one - and she's a very occasional birder (only does it to keep me happy)

We were sat in a hide at Stodmarsh and Mrs R had the BINs (only one pair between us - Doh!!) watching a Heron fishing.

'Oooh. What's that.' She said. 'Two little orange birds have just popped out of the reeds, run around for a bit and then popped back in again.' Grrrr!

Anyway..... if anyone knows of a certain place to see a Bearded Tit (petshops considered!!) please let me know.


Rgds... Ruby.



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You had your fair share of luck that day Ruby.
I've seen lots of bushes containing Grasshopper Warblers but never the bird itself,a bit of a bogey bird for me.
I did have a Osprey low over the car one morning on the way to work though.
Look out for Osprey at Thursley at this time of year.
We popped into Thursley a couple of years ago looking for Hen Harriers and Great Grey Shrike, saw neither but had good views of Bullfinch and Green Woodpecker instead.
 
We've had excellent views of bearded tit at Stodmarsh. Just this summer we watched a pair coming in and out of the reeds directly in front of the reed bed hide - we guessed they were attempting to nest deep in the reeds there.

I suppose it's a matter of luck.
 
Good stuff
Thursley is one of those places that can produce excellent birds.
It's had its far share of good rarity records over the years too.

I am still after a really good digiscoped shot of a Dartford Warbler and Thursley sound like it could be a good bet for that at the moment. I am only 20 mins away. Its also excellent on a hot summer's day for Lizards, which just come out, and bask on the boardwalk. Not to mention the Dragonflies for which it is internationally important. Grasshopper Warbler is a good record for the site and worth submitting to the county recorder I would have thought.

You Could try Farlington Marshes for Bearded tit, just a hop down the A3 from Thursley, there should be a few around but try to pick a windless day, and the sit and wait approach often works best. Though they can be seen in large groups and at this time of year sometimes jump out of the reeds in large groups flying around and calling which is difficult to miss. Often flying some distance only to return into the reeds where they came from. Farlington is well worth a look anyway even if they are not showing.

Good luck :t:


Richard
 
Hi Ruby,

Enjoyed your write-up. Bearded Tits or Reedlings can be seen quite commonly from Island Mere Hide at Minsmere RSPB reserve in Suffolk during the spring when they fly around the tops of the reeds. I've seen them there. Like you I haven't seen them at Stodmarsh although as Robin says they are there. Love to see a Dartford Warbler.
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james
 
Nice report,Ruby;I was at Thursley in June and had a similar experience to you,the Dartford W's being very confiding.The same could not be said for the Redstarts,that were hard work!

I'd agree with Robin regarding Bearded Tits,a couple of weeks ago at Stodmarsh I got my best ever views and the place was alive with them.
 
I enjoyed your write-up, Ruby.
Bearded tits are easiest to see when there's sun and no wind!
They are also the sort of bird that turns up when you aren't looking for them. My wife and I went for a walk across the NNR at Sheppey and we kept seeing them flying out of the drainage ditches, set out across the saltmarsh for about 50 yards, then change their minds and head back into the reeds. Apparently they can be 'erruptive' when their numbers build up in the autumn, so I guess they had reached a point where they were running out of reeds and were trying to build up the courage to fly off to look for new habitat.
You should definitely send the grasshopper warbler record to the county recorder. They've been very scarce in Surrey over recent years. (In fact I've never seen one in Surrey and I've live here for 15 years.)
Thursley is a brilliant place--I wish I lived a bit nearer. Look out for woodlarks, nightjars and redstarts there in the spring, and raptors in the winter. There used to be little owls there, too.
Ken
 
Liked reading about your day and I love it when birding days turn out as smoothly as yours did which is very rare indeed. I still have not got Bearded Tit myself.
 
I think Thursley Common is another of those great places I used to live near before I got into birding (the Baltic coast of Germany is the most noticeable of these). It's not too far from Godalming, is it? I lived in Godalming for a year in 96/97 and jolly nice it was too.

My experience of Bearded Tits is seeing numerous small, stripey long-tailed birds whizzing between reedbeds at Oostvaarderplassen near Amsterdam two years ago. I had watched them for ages before it dawned on that they were juvenile Bearded Tits. Would love to see an adult male though.

E
 
Hi Ruby,
I've been to Thursley and had excellent views of Dartford Warblers there,also 2 Hobbies and a few Green Woodpeckers(we don't get those here).Wasn't as lucky with dragonflies:my visit was during July 2001,and the weather was quite overcast and cool that day.Nice spot!
Harry H
 
Sounds like you had a very good day.

I've never managed Bearded Tits or Dartford Warbler, and it was only ten days ago in Brittany that I managed to see a Stonechat.

had two sightings of Grey Wagytail this year, one at Tichmarsh, and the other on top of the ruined wall of the church next to the house at Brockhamstead. Totally unexpected too.
 
Hi Guys,

Thanks very much for your feedback - some kind words and advice about tracking down those pesky Bearded Tits. I will persevere and will see one one day (I hope) or at least enjoy the many days trying!

Bit surprised (but delighted!) that my Grasshopper Warbler is thought of as being a bit unusual - the one at Thursley was my first (any only!!) GW, but I had previously heard one somewhere else in the local area. Can't quite remember where, but I think it was somewhere in the Sth London suburbs - probably South Norwood Country Park or Mitcham Common.

Being relatively new to birding, I wasn't aware that there was such a thing as a county recorder - can anyone please tell me what process I should follow to report this sighting.


Thanks.... Ruby
 
Richard's info is spot on!
sightings AT surreybirdclub.org.uk
There is also a yahoogroup
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SurreyBirders/
(which I probably ought to confess to having started :D)
for the exchange of news (though it tends to wander off topic rather a lot--mainly my fault!).
Yes, Ruby, virtually every county in England, Scotland and Wales (I'm not sure about N. Ireland?) has an annual bird report based on the collated records sent to their 'county recorder' by birdwatchers during the year. Many counties have well-organised clubs which produce newsletters, organise field trips and meetings and, in some cases, run nature reserves. (Sadly, Surrey Bird Club hasn't got any reserves at the moment.) Of course there are also lots of local RSPB members' groups, too, so there are lots of opportunities if you want to go birding with more experienced birders. I know that experiences vary, but on the whole most people (including me) have learned a lot by taking part in some of the field trips.
Ken
 
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Thanks for the info Ken.

I'll submit the sighting of the Grasshopper Warbler tomorrow...

Thanks for the info about the Surrey bird club - the idea of going birding with a bit of company sounds great - do you have a programme of planned activities, or do these things tend to be set up on an ad-hoc basis??


Rgds... Ruby
 
Richard Ford has the important tip for seeing Beardies - choose a completely calm day. Then they show well. As soon as there's any wind, they stay deep down in the reeds where they're invisible

Michael
 
I've visited Thursley a few times - lovely place, my first ever crossbills, dartford warb, grey shrike, lizzards (not all the same day). Any idea how late in the year the lizards show? - are they still about? - or was last night's frost enough to put them to sleep?

Andrew
 
HI Andrew,

Not sure about Thursley, but I nearly ran over a lizard when exiting Bough Beech car park on Sunday....

Thanks for the info Michael


Rgds... Ruby
 
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