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Roe Deer? (2 Viewers)

Bish

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I saw these 2 today on a woodland edge, are they Roe deer?

The pics were taken at 200yds+ as there was an open field between them & me & I couldn't get any closer

Regards Bish. :t:
 

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Definately not roe!

At first I thought they might have been sika? but the second picture looks very much like a female red deer.

They do have very long snozzles (not a technical term that) compared to the slightly more compact features of sika and roe.

Matt
 
Fallow deer have long snozzles! Red Deer tend to be found in SW England - but fallow common generally. Could be a private collection of Red Deer of course!
(the last one looks like a donkey LOL!)
 
Do you have any better pics of their rump? Going by pic 4 I'd say they were Fallow Deer (tail with black stripe down centre, white surround, dark border).
 
MSA said:
Do you have any better pics of their rump? Going by pic 4 I'd say they were Fallow Deer (tail with black stripe down centre, white surround, dark border).

Good point about the rump!

Think I might have to stand corrected on this one |:$|

Hi Deborah..

Don't know why I didn't think of fallow,I think the lack of white spots threw me off the scent!,of course they would be indistict in the winter.Is it me or does the
speciman far left in the first pic look like a juvenile?

matt
 
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Concur Fallow Deer, the rump pattern is diagnostic in a British context.

In winter coat spots are absent but note the two-tone flanks.

John
 
Thanks for the replies, Here's a few more pics, not good but they may help

I wish I had took my 500mm & 1.4TC with me but decided on the 100-400mm instead as this is a long walk from home :C

Regards Bish. :t:
 

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Hi Bish

If you look at the middle pic, it shows very nicely Fallow Deer markings, such as the white rump and dark tones to back: These features are diagnostic for Fallow.

Nice catch - we only have Roe and some privately reared Reds near me
 
deborah4 said:
Hi Bish

If you look at the middle pic, it shows very nicely Fallow Deer markings, such as the white rump and dark tones to back: These features are diagnostic for Fallow.

Nice catch - we only have Roe and some privately reared Reds near me

Thanks Deborah

I rarely see deer this clearly, usually just a glimse in the undergrowth of a Muntjac so I was keen to id them

Many thanks

Regards Bish. :t:
 
I agree that they are Fallow Deer. They are the only British deer that has the black and white rump pattern as is shown in the photo (as the above posts already say). Sika Deer have a similar pattern, however the tail is smaller and is more white.

Not sure where the photo was taken Bish. I always get good views of Fallow Deer at Hatfield Forest, although I'm still waiting for a decent view of a Muntjac. In East Yorkshire, Roe Deer are getting more and more common and I seem to see one or two every week.
 
skink1978 said:
I agree that they are Fallow Deer. They are the only British deer that has the black and white rump pattern as is shown in the photo (as the above posts already say). Sika Deer have a similar pattern, however the tail is smaller and is more white.

Not sure where the photo was taken Bish. I always get good views of Fallow Deer at Hatfield Forest, although I'm still waiting for a decent view of a Muntjac. In East Yorkshire, Roe Deer are getting more and more common and I seem to see one or two every week.


These pics were taken in Brightlingsea (Essex) on a public footpath looking towards the southern edge of Thorrington hall wood

Regards Bish. :t:
 
I'm about 90% positive they ARE Fallow.

If you look at the tail pattern in the fourth photo you can quite clearly see the white bum, brownish tail with black stripe down the centre.....Sika don't have the black stripe: I think they have more of a brown one.

One of the programmes last week on Nature's Calender had Chris Packham watching deer at Fountains Abbey ( if i'm remembering rightly) and he did a drawing of the differences in rump/tail pattern between Red, Sika and Fallow Deer. The Fallow was the only one with a black stripe going down the centre of the tail.

Mind you, I've never had experience of these three species up here in Northumberland.....tis mostly Roe we get in these parts.
 
deborah4 said:
How about 100% Gill? think we got there a while ago LOL! ;) (post 9)


Post 7 to be precise Debs!

"Concur Fallow Deer, the rump pattern is diagnostic in a British context.

In winter coat spots are absent but note the two-tone flanks.

John"
 
MSA said:
Post 7 to be precise Debs!

"Concur Fallow Deer, the rump pattern is diagnostic in a British context.

In winter coat spots are absent but note the two-tone flanks.

John"


LOL - if you're going to be like that, how about post 3 :bounce:
 
deborah4 said:
LOL - if you're going to be like that, how about post 3 :bounce:

OK, it's yours - I'll turn a blind eye to the donkey!!

Good job there's only a handful of deer species in the UK and not several hundred, like the birds ;)
 
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