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Rockhopper Penguin Splits (1 Viewer)

Tom Tarrant

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Not sure if this has been mentioned already on BirdForum Taxonomy but it was recently posted on Birding-Aus.
Tom

Tony Pym <[email protected]> wrote:


A paper in the journal Molecular Ecology by Pierre Jouventin et al has shown, as expected, that the Rockhopper Penguin should be split and recognised as two species, E. chrysocome and Eudyptes moseleyi .

For information, here's an abstract:
The taxonomic status of populations of rockhopper penguins (Eudyptes chrysocome) is still enigmatic. Northern populations differ from southern ones in breeding phenology, song characteristics and head ornaments used as mating signals. We conducted a molecular analysis using mitochondrial DNA sequencing to test if there is a gene flow barrier between northern (subtropical) populations and southern (subantarctic) populations in relation to the Subtropical Convergence, a major ecological boundary for marine organisms. Sequences of the control region and the ND2 gene were analysed in rockhopper penguins and in the macaroni penguin (Eudyptes chrysolophus), a closely related species. Genetic distances and phylogenetic analyses showed a clear split into three clades, two rockhopper clades and the macaroni penguin. Moreover, ÈST and gene flow estimates also suggested genetic structuring within the northern rockhoppers. Our results add further support to the notion that the two
rockhopper penguin taxa, often considered as two subspecies, can be recognized as two species E. chrysocome and E. moseleyi. The divergence in mating signals found between these two taxa seems to have occurred recently and relatively rapidly. Thus, the behavioural changes may have been enough to isolate these taxa without the need for morphological differentiation. The findings have important conservational implications, since E. moseleyi is far less abundant than E. chrysocome, but more populations may warrant an uplisting to endangered status if full species status should be recognized for more subpopulations.
 
Whilst I am happy with the decision to recognise the taxon at species level I am rather surprised at the decision to use this name. It is simply illogical on several levels:

1) The bulk of the population breeds on Gough not Tristan. Wikipedia says "the current population is estimated to be between 100,000-499,999 breeding pairs at Gough Island, 18,000 to 27,000 pairs at Inaccessible Island, and [only] 3,200 to 4,500 at Tristan da Cunha.
2) There are significant populations in the Indian Ocean, the population was 25,500 pairs on Amsterdam Island, and 9,000 pairs on St Paul Island in 1993". This is only a small proportion if one uses the upper (rather unlikely) estimate of 499000 on Gough!

I agree that Northern is also not a good name, as what does north refer to, but can not fathom the logic that Moseley was not an ornithologist (so only ornithologist are allowed to have birds after them??) nor that Moseley is already honoured in the scientific name. If this was a valid argument then we should rename Richards Pipit and the committee should have change the name of De Filippi's Petrel when it voted recently. I also can't understand the arguement that Moseley's is difficult to pronounce in Spanish. So what! This is a decision about an English name - presumably the Spanish ornithological community can can it whatever they want. If you follow this logic through we should probably rename Hoatzin and Lammergeier as no English speakers seem to be able to correctly pronounce these names...

Paul
 
Whilst I am happy with the decision to recognise the taxon at species level I am rather surprised at the decision to use this name. It is simply illogical on several levels:

1) The bulk of the population breeds on Gough not Tristan. Wikipedia says "the current population is estimated to be between 100,000-499,999 breeding pairs at Gough Island, 18,000 to 27,000 pairs at Inaccessible Island, and [only] 3,200 to 4,500 at Tristan da Cunha.
2) There are significant populations in the Indian Ocean, the population was 25,500 pairs on Amsterdam Island, and 9,000 pairs on St Paul Island in 1993". This is only a small proportion if one uses the upper (rather unlikely) estimate of 499000 on Gough!

I agree that Northern is also not a good name, as what does north refer to, but can not fathom the logic that Moseley was not an ornithologist (so only ornithologist are allowed to have birds after them??) nor that Moseley is already honoured in the scientific name. If this was a valid argument then we should rename Richards Pipit and the committee should have change the name of De Filippi's Petrel when it voted recently. I also can't understand the arguement that Moseley's is difficult to pronounce in Spanish. So what! This is a decision about an English name - presumably the Spanish ornithological community can can it whatever they want. If you follow this logic through we should probably rename Hoatzin and Lammergeier as no English speakers seem to be able to correctly pronounce these names...

Paul

Paul

I agree entirely. I would have preferred "Long-plumed Penguin" or something like that! Moseley's Penguin is the best (least worst) of the existing names.

cheers, alan
 
Why then is Rockhopper itself a good name? Don't all penguins "hop" and live near rocks? ;)
 
Why then is Rockhopper itself a good name? Don't all penguins "hop" and live near rocks? ;)

Agree its not ideal (although quite nice) - the point here is to establish an English name for a "newly recognized" penguin species, not to rename all inappropriately named penguins!

cheers, alan
 
Whilst I am happy with the decision to recognise the taxon at species level I am rather surprised at the decision to use this name. It is simply illogical on several levels:

1) The bulk of the population breeds on Gough not Tristan. Wikipedia says "the current population is estimated to be between 100,000-499,999 breeding pairs at Gough Island, 18,000 to 27,000 pairs at Inaccessible Island, and [only] 3,200 to 4,500 at Tristan da Cunha.

Don't you think the SACC has intended Tristan as refering to the group of islands rather than the specific island of Tristan da Cunha? The archipelago inluding Tristan, Gough, Inaccesible and Nightingale is called Tristan du Cunha.

A similar example would be Hawaiian Shearwater where "Hawaiian" refers to the island group rather than the island of Hawaii (Big Island).
 
Don't you think the SACC has intended Tristan as refering to the group of islands rather than the specific island of Tristan da Cunha? The archipelago inluding Tristan, Gough, Inaccesible and Nightingale is called Tristan du Cunha.

A similar example would be Hawaiian Shearwater where "Hawaiian" refers to the island group rather than the island of Hawaii (Big Island).

Even so, the Indian Ocean populations are forgotten. Sandwich Tern, Dartford Warbler, Kentish Plover and the like are historical curiosities. We should not be creating another one when more rationale names exist.

cheers, alan
 
Even so, the Indian Ocean populations are forgotten. Sandwich Tern, Dartford Warbler, Kentish Plover and the like are historical curiosities. We should not be creating another one when more rationale names exist.

Sandwich, Dartford and Kentish are a tiny section of their distribution. They are not really comparable to the Penguin. If we use the lowest figure about 3/4 of the population is in Tristin archipelago and with highest figure more than 9/10. If we only accept names where the descriptive part is totally accurate all the time it is very hard to find a name. I don't understand why it is better to have names like 'rockhopper' or 'Moseley's' that say very little about the bird than a descriptive name that is accurate most of the time. Playing the devils advocate: juveniles and young adults don't have very long head plumes. Long-plumed is only accurate in most of their life. Tristan is accurate for most of the population. The difference is the same ;)
 
Bizarre. You might as well say that female Birds of Paradise..are not.

Some like their subtle colors but yes the same argument can be used for them. I should remind you that you are the one that in previous posts have argued for the dismissal of Tristan because it wasn't accurate for the entire population. Only most, if it is the Tristan archipelago. I never made that argument. I only pointed out that if you want all descriptive names to be 100% accurate all the time relatively few birds have names that fit.
 
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