?raven, Cashel, Ireland (1 Viewer)

[marnixR]

the attached was croaking away on the top of a tower at Cashel Rock, County Tipperary, and normally i would have marked it down as being a raven
however, its croak was more akin to that of a carrion crow or a rook, so thought the possibility of a stray carrion crow or a young rook should be considered - can anyone help me out of this muddle ?
pictures taken about a week ago

 

[Baldoon57]

Looks like a raven to me , but best to wait for the experts

 

[marnixR]

Does anyone know whether a young raven has a higher-pitched croak ?

 

[Butty]

Easier in flight or from a recording.

 

[Richard Prior]

Does anyone know whether a young raven has a higher-pitched croak ?

The young ones here in the Alps certainly do for the first few weeks after fledging only.

 

[marnixR]

so, on balance, raven it is then
thank you all for your replies

 

[CorvidMania]

Raven for me. The exaggerated bill and tip at the end of it does it for me