NL reliability anecdotes / info: I hesitate to link this here, but I think it’s worthwhile (3 Viewers)

[MiddleRiver]

For absolutely certainty, the "Field-Pro System" is a solution to a problem that didn't exist. I hate it..

How can you say that!? Do you actually own more than one pair of binos??? Sheesh….

<totally agree btw :->

 

[Maljunulo]

How can you say that!? Do you actually own more than one pair of binos??? Sheesh….

<totally agree btw :->

Um ..... yes, he does.

 

[claves_10]

If I did I’d want a big throne made out of melted Swarovski armour with huge bird feathers to decorate it!

Well you can have it, but I I don't know how you can call company support for thrones, maybe the blacksmith . Since the Swarovski Thrones will not be up to many people standards. If you pay 5 horses for the throne, it should last o whole reign/realm.

 

[claves_10]

For those who visit the forum less frequently, we had this opening post:

And we had this answer:

Now if you want to waste your time reading everything in between, there is some signal and an awful lot of noise.
So grab some popcorn and draw your own conclusions / do your own research.

Temmie .....SO sorry

 

[Dennis Mau]

Is there an intermission to get more food and drink?

 

[Maljunulo]

People do get wrapped around the axle over some rather insignificant stuff.

 

[Scott98]

For those who visit the forum less frequently, we had this opening post:

And we had this answer:

Yes, the "answer" is that Swarovski struggles with the mechanical stuff....so does Leica IMO. Probably because of being smaller boutique optics companies versus the big guys Zeiss and Nikon....even Kamakura and KUO.

Swaro and Leica counter that with white-glove service treatment, but it is what is is.....

 

[Binocollector]

My Nikons have never needed to go back to Nikon USA?

My Nikon P7 broke after using the diopter 5 times (unfortunately if you switch between glasses and no glasses while using the bino you have to use the diopter frequently). I had bought it directly from their website and they never answered my mail.
So in case you wanted to make the claim that Nikons don't break...

 

[Dennis Mau]

People do get wrapped around the axle over some rather insignificant stuff.

If the issues were not significant, Swarovski wouldn't be fixing them. Obviously they have realized their mistakes and are going to correct them in the new improved version.

 

[Maljunulo]

My Nikon P7 broke after using the diopter 5 times (unfortunately if you switch between glasses and no glasses while using the bino you have to use the diopter frequently). I had bought it directly from their website and they never answered my mail.
So in case you wanted to make the claim that Nikons don't break...

If it’s an inconvenience, why do you switch?

 

[Dennis Mau]

My Nikon P7 broke after using the diopter 5 times (unfortunately if you switch between glasses and no glasses while using the bino you have to use the diopter frequently). I had bought it directly from their website and they never answered my mail.
So in case you wanted to make the claim that Nikons don't break...

I have had better luck with Nikon service than I have had with Swarovski. I sent a couple binoculars into Nikon for service on a tight focuser, and they were back to me in a little over a week and repaired properly. Swarovski on the other hand took a month when I sent a pair of EL 8.5x42's in for a rough focuser and when it came back it was worse than it was before and the binoculars were obviously dirty. I ended up selling them. I don't think they used white gloves when they worked on them either.

 

[Binocollector]

If it’s an inconvenience, why do you switch?

The better question is - why does a diopter break after using it 5 times?
But if you wanna know - when I'm at home and watch birds through my living room window - I prefer to not use my glasses. I can simply remove them and put them on the table. When I'm out for a walk and use the bino, I prefer to keep the glasses on as it's annoying to take them off, store them safely and then put the bino to my eyes.

 

[Maljunulo]

The better question is - why does a diopter break after using it 5 times?
But if you wanna know - when I'm at home and watch birds through my living room window - I prefer to not use my glasses. I can simply remove them and put them on the table. When I'm out for a walk and use the bino, I prefer to keep the glasses on as it's annoying to take them off, store them safely and then put the bino to my eyes.

Thank you

 

[Binocollector]

Thank you

You're welcome. It might also become a problem if you wanna switch the bino back and forth between different people with varying eyesight. IMHO the issue with the Nikon P7 is the locking diopter. The moving parts are all plastic. A plastic ring glued to a plastic mechanism. Not very trust inducing.

 

[AllanG]

The better question is - why does a diopter break after using it 5 times?
But if you wanna know - when I'm at home and watch birds through my living room window - I prefer to not use my glasses. I can simply remove them and put them on the table. When I'm out for a walk and use the bino, I prefer to keep the glasses on as it's annoying to take them off, store them safely and then put the bino to my eyes.

That’s exactly how I use my binos, so I’m pleased that I’m not the only one who does this! 👍

 

[Maljunulo]

“Demanded evidence” of what?

 

[James Lowther]

QED

 

[GrampaTom]

In Alaska for five years I used binos all the time. After going from Noctivids to NL's I then pretty quickly switched from NL Pure to EL Range TA (although I don't hunt). Liking the RF's view but short of the NL, I figured hunting glass had to be built tougher given what had happened to my pair, and in my case with the RFTA's it seems three years in I was right. The RFTA's have stood up beautifully. Problem was, when I mentioned to this group why I moved to the RFTA many NL owners freaked out, demanded evidence like I ran Albino's lab, and were very unkind. After reading this thread, I'd do it again.

I have regretted my questioning your claimed opinion the RFTAs were tougher back then. Fear I may be one of those you allude to. I'm pretty sure I was not though one of those in the "defend our NL camp" but merely wanted to know on what evidence you could say that. They were such a new thing, how could anyone know that back then? Good to hear yours are still going strong.

 

[Isthatascratch?]

I have regretted my questioning your claimed opinion the RFTAs were tougher back then. Fear I may be one of those you allude to. I'm pretty sure I was not though one of those in the "defend our NL camp" but merely wanted to know on what evidence you could say that. They were such a new thing, how could anyone know that back then? Good to hear yours are still going strong.

I am not sure he has them anymore?!?

 

[Yarkho]

I am still keen to know how often people clean their EL’s/NL’s with the soap and brush or mild detergent, water and a cloth.

Haven't done it yet. Anyway, the thought of applying anything wet on an optical instrument makes my hair stand up all over.

Does it not end up on the lenses even if the caps are on?