William Lewis
Wishing birdwatching paid the bills.
Wonder if anyone ever got one?
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new binocular wishes 2023 (1 Viewer)
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lilcrazy2
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I thought I saw a picture someone posted in the past where these were made in several different colors. I remember thinking the blue one was for me IIRC.
Paultricounty
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I don’t think these were ever waterproof, just a rubber armor.
Paultricounty
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I’m still waiting on those 32 Noctivids.
A2GG
Beth
me too ... wish we knew for sure what Leica is doing.
If they’ve already decided not to make these I’d like to know right away so I can move on lol
Paultricounty
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I was told last December from what I believe is very reliable source they are coming. I would’ve thought if Leica was going to do it, this is the time of year to do it.
Gijs van Ginkel
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The 32 Noctivids are already there, they only have a built-in electronic distance meter/rangefinder. Leica calls it the Pro. So if ou are interestd you can give it a try, it is a beautiful very good performing binocular.
Gijs van Ginkel
Gijs van Ginkel
jafritten
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These are the Geovids, aren't they?
Gijs van Ginkel
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jafritten, post 88,
Yes.
Yes.
cytherian
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On a slightly related note, I'm a big fan of Japanese writing instruments. Particularly vintage fountain pens, mechanical pencils, and some ballpoints/rollerballs. The Japanese take great pride in workmanship and doing things right. And also, they enjoy exclusivity, to the point where they will make special releases only for the JDM (Japan Domestic Market). Us Americans who love their products will yearn and drool over those JDM editions, previously unobtainable unless you went to Japan or had a friend coming back from Japan bring you one. Now, finally, Amazon Japan has made it possible whereby some products can be shipped to the USA. There's also proxy buying services, which of course increase the cost. Not so bad now with the exchange rate so favorable for the USA and EU.Having the Nikon 2022 Japan catalog here, the 42mm EDG and E2's are going strong and in current production. They seem to have taken a pre-Colonial, insular attitude on these....content to sell them to their fellow Japanese and not caring too much about what outsiders think. We are welcome to purchase the binoculars if we want, with a simple DHL air shipping fee of about $50, I can almost hear them asking, "what else do you want from us?"
I drink Japanese green tea every day, it's the best, it's not easy to find in the USA, sometimes you have to overcome a little inconvenience to get the best stuff. IMO the EDG are already a good value at US$1400-1500 and appeal to observers who don't prefer ultra-wide field designs. It would only take a couple small tweaks to get them among the very best of today....like some of the tech they used in the WX. In many ways they're already the best.
I have two of their binoculars in the entry-level zone, the Travelite series. Very good binos for the money. I don't use binoculars enough to justify $1k+, so the Monarch HG series has me intrigued. Then I learned about the EDG. Been on the hunt for a lightly used pair for a good price. I was going to pick up the Monarch M7... but when I saw the HG comparative shootout, I figured those would be worth waiting for.
Paultricounty
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Thats some good info, i’ll definitely keep that in mind.
The MHG is a nice step up in optics and build to the M7. The MHG is wonderful glass and gives a beautiful image quality. You may never miss the EDG, unless your the wondering type. In that case you will always have in the back of your mind if you should’ve went for the EDG, If so wait it out. There’s always a nice clean EDG popping up either here on BF or the other equipment or auction sites.
Happy Holidays
Paul
Hi,
regarding the 7x35 retrovid in rubber - my source at Leica does not work there any more... but back in the days when the retrovids came out without Uppendahl prisms or the rubber versions, he still was there. And he told me that they had been nixed - not just delayed.
We'll see in a few years ;-)
Joachim
Paultricounty
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Hi Joachim,
I was referring to a 32 Noctivid. But I certainly would be interested in a nice waterproof rubber armored 10x40 retro. 😄🎄🙏🏼.
My thoughts are Leica should have all really done this while the the target was closer if they were going to. I'm not really sure Leica has it in them to come to market with a binocular competitive with the SF/NL 32mm.
A2GG
Beth
Leica has a quality that goes beyond the specifications IMO. Noctivid doesn’t compete in the flat FOV wars but they do offer something unique and special that the others don’t IMO; the beauty of the Leica image, design and build/construction.
I finally got to try the NL 8x32 recently and didn’t really feel any enthusiasm for it even though I know it’s technically excellent. I preferred the SF 8x32 which I think I could really be happy with. But I know I’d much prefer a Noctivid 8x32 if one ever comes along. Just hope I have the money by then.
How come you didn't like NL 8x32? That is my favorite binocular! Them are fighting words! Why did you prefer the SF 8x32? Are you trying to get brownie points with Lee?
A2GG
Beth
I put my impressions of it in another thread recently. I didn’t get much of a chance to judge the optics too much as I didn’t have much time with it. I didn’t like the look and feel of it. I preferred the look and ergonomics of the SF and also the quicker focus speed. The SF image seemed slightly warm compared to the NL and I felt it was a more pleasing and relaxed type of view for me. However the NL was better with eyeglasses kind of like EL 8x32, very easy to look through.How come you didn't like NL 8x32? That is my favorite binocular! Them are fighting words! Why did you prefer the SF 8x32? Are you trying to get brownie points with Lee?
Paultricounty
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Why wouldn’t they have it in them to market a competitive 32 to the SF and NL?
They already did with the 42. You must mean in sales numbers.
Happy holidays.
Paultricounty
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I felt the same way about the NL and SF 32’s. Although I like the build quality better in the Swaro, the SF is a little warmer. Between the 32’s I liked the SF better, in the 42’s I liked the NL more, strange.
The intersting thing about the Noctivids and NL’s, is if you tried the Leica first then tried the NL, the NL stands out a bit because of the large FOV. But when you try the NL’s and switch to the Leica’s you get the oohs and ahh’s. Choosing one after side by side comparison is difficult and comes down to what do you want more. IMO optical quality of both are on par, so do you want the wide FOV with more of a flat field, or the Leica with the more immersive and saturated color image, IMO.
It was an optical menagerie holiday this year. I got two Vortex Vipers , a Razer and we added a canon 10x32IS for my older daughter.
And I think Dennis is the only one here that needs to save up a few brownie points with Lee 🤪✌🏼.
Merry Christmas
Paul
So what would the birding market expect for a new sota premium priced 8X32? I'm not sure exactly when the Noctivid was introduced but I bought my 10X42 in Jan 2017 and the 8X42 in Sept 2017. So that makes it at least a 6 year old design. IDK...the competition has certainly raised the bar for 8X32s since the Noctivid was introduced and the "talk" of a 32mm Noctivid.
