Latest IOC Diary Updates (15 Viewers)

[Mysticete]

As was noted by Norbert Bahr here, the paper describing chaski was initially (13 May) issued without evidence of registration in ZooBank. PNAS is online-only, hence this was problematic.
This seems to have been quickly corrected, though. (The work was registered on 14 May and a new pdf containing the registration data was apparently uploaded (17 May as per ZooBank) in replacement of the first one. This new pdf can be viewed as published for the purposes of nomenclature. It still claims to have been published on 13 May, though.) So this concern, at least, seems to have been remedied.

I was referring to whether peruviana is actually valid, which I have heard chatter over. If it is, then chaski wouldn't have priority.

 

[Mysticete]

What's the date for that?

Generally July/Early August. Sometimes a little sooner...

 

[pbjosh]

Generally July/Early August. Sometimes a little sooner...

Didn’t they say something about it pushing out later going forward after last year’s late release?

 

[Mysticete]

I don't remember...it's possible. Although I think that still means August, correct?

 

[pbjosh]

I don't remember...it's possible. Although I think that still means August, correct?

2023 update was in October. I do not remember where I read, but I remember reasonably well having read, that future updates would be timed similarly, so if my memory is to be trusted that would mean sometime late Sept / in Oct perhaps.

Or perhaps someone with better memory, better google skills, or actual authority will comment

 

[Mysticete]

That's the Clements/ebird update. They did make a recent announcement that all ebird updates would be later in the year, around that time frame, so I think you might be mixing things up

Last year's proposal was dated for July 2023, same as always.

 

[pbjosh]

That's the Clements/ebird update. They did make a recent announcement that all ebird updates would be later in the year, around that time frame, so I think you might be mixing things up

Last year's proposal was dated for July 2023, same as always.

Yeah sorry I was being a dolt.

 

[Viktor Björkert]

Red-eyed Scimitar Babbler Erythrogenys imberbis (including celata) is split from Rusty-cheeked Scimitar Babbler E. erythrogenys based on differences in morphology and vocalizations (Berryman et al. 2023).

 

[Mysticete]

Jun 16 Post split of Maasai Apalis from Karamoja Apalis.

 

[Viktor Björkert]

AS 14.2

Mindanao Cuckooshrike

Coracina kochii

Sulu Cuckooshrike

Coracina guillemardi

Mindanao Cuckooshrike Coracina kochii (including boholensis) is split from Bar-bellied Cuckooshrike C. striata based on differences in vocalizations supported by morphological differences and moderate mtDNA divergence (Jønsson et al. 2008, 2010).

 

[Markus Lagerqvist]

Northern Red-fronted Tinkerbird

Pogoniulus uropygialis

ADD

AS

Yellow-rumped Tinkerbird

Northern Red-fronted Tinkerbird Pogoniulus uropygialis (including affinis) is split from Southern Red-fronted Tinkerbird P. pusillus based on whole genome data, significant divergence in mtDNA, and phenotypic differences (Kirschel et al. 2021).

 

[gusasp]

AS 14.2

Mindanao Cuckooshrike

Coracina kochii

Sulu Cuckooshrike

Coracina guillemardi

Mindanao Cuckooshrike Coracina kochii (including boholensis) is split from Bar-bellied Cuckooshrike C. striata based on differences in vocalizations supported by morphological differences and moderate mtDNA divergence (Jønsson et al. 2008, 2010).

Makes the distribution of striata s.s. a little less weird, after Mindoro, Visayan and Sulu were split off. Still weird though. Surely Roving worth to split as well?

 

[Swindon Addick]

Northern Red-fronted Tinkerbird

Pogoniulus uropygialis

ADD

AS

Yellow-rumped Tinkerbird

Northern Red-fronted Tinkerbird Pogoniulus uropygialis (including affinis) is split from Southern Red-fronted Tinkerbird P. pusillus based on whole genome data, significant divergence in mtDNA, and phenotypic differences (Kirschel et al. 2021).

Southern being the birds in "Mozambique to e South Africa" according to the magic IOC spreadsheet, while Northern is from Eritrea to Uganda & Tanzania.

 

[Rob Hunt]

Red Grouse split from Willow Ptarmigan.

 

[Farnboro John]

Red Grouse split from Willow Ptarmigan.

Preparatory to admitting there's no such thing as Scottish Crossbill but retaining Britain's status as having an endemic bird.

John

 

[Jacana]

Preparatory to admitting there's no such thing as Scottish Crossbill but retaining Britain's status as having an endemic bird.

John

Ireland will be surprised to hear that it's part of Britain again

 

[opisska]

Red Grouse split from Willow Ptarmigan.

Finally?! An armchair WP tick after ages ... Also this gives our briefest ever trip to Scotland extra meaning

 

[James Lowther]

To be fair to John I think what he wrote is technically correct. I think Britain and Ireland is a sufficiently small and coherent unit that you can describe Red Grouse as an endemic that occurs in Britain (but not of course a British endemic).

Cheers
James

 

[Farnboro John]

It's fair pedantry - I should know - British Isles then, and no nonsense about the Celtic Isles that nobody ever heard of or will use in the future.

John

 

[twitcherf]

To be fair to John I think what he wrote is technically correct. I think Britain and Ireland is a sufficiently small and coherent unit that you can describe Red Grouse as an endemic that occurs in Britain (but not of course a British endemic).

Cheers
James

There is no technical correctness about what John said at all.

He said 'Britain having an endemic bird' and that is definitvely not the case - Britain does not have an endemic as the bird also occurs in both Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland, neither of which are covered by Britain.