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Kingfishers owls and woodpeckers at Moore NR (1 Viewer)

Hi all,

I wonder if any kind locals to Moore nature reserve near warrington could help, as my other half and i are becoming increasingly frustrated!

I have recently re-discovered two passions from when i was young, namely photography and birds. Though a convoluted and somewhat boring trail of events (another time maybe!) i have come to decide that it would mean a huge amount to me to a.) properly observe, and b.) photograph some old favourites, and hopefully find some new ones in the process!

Having spent the last 6 weeks or so (since one outing just after christmas when we were both off work and bored) visiting sites around the north west at weekends, including Martin Mere WWT (fantastic!), Mere sands wood, Moore Nature Reserve, Loggerheads (north wales), and a few others, we have seen many wonderful birds and creatures great and small.

As alluded to by the title of this post, I did (foolishly!) set myself a few goals, one of which was to see and hopefully photograph (however blurred!!) a kingfisher. I have only seen one twice, both times way down south near to my parents house, and both times nothing more than the classic 'flash of blue' flying past.

From doing plenty of research online, on sites such as this, i have found a few places to keep looking (see list above!) but due to convenience from home and from work, we seem to have settled upon Moore as a favourite spot to visit. Its a fantastic walk around the site if nothing else, and i have some wonderful photos of the sun going down. But alas! no kingfisher!

Can anyone steer me towards the right places at moore to be looking - or at least locations where kingfishers have definitely been seen recently (ideally this year!). I see fairly regular sighting posted on the Moore NR website sightings pages, but few of these mention specific locations, and i understand that kingfishers can be creatures of habit, and do keep to strict territories.

I have no shortage of patience and will quite happily sit and observe for many hours at whatever time of day necessary (something else i am not sure of!), but need to make sure my efforts to spot a kingfisher are not being wasted in the wrong part of the reserve.

Recently i have only been able to get out during afternoons and evenings due to work commitments.. is this likely to be a great hinderance?

On an unrelated note, i have also heard that tawny owls can be seen at Moore, roosting in an ivy-covered tree. Have they been seen recently? If so i would love to add tawny's to the list (or rather cross them off!) as i have also never seen one in the wild. If anyone can drop me a PM with a specific location it would be much appreciated.

regarding woodpeckers, am i correct in thinking that 3 species can be seen at Moore? if so, am i getting way ahead of myself hoping to catch any at this time of year?


If anyone has any useful advice to send towards a newbie like me, then it would be very much appreciated.
 
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If you live near Moore N.R. then Marbury country park shouldn't be too far from you.
I have seen a kingfisher from one of the hides quite regularly, most recently just before Christmas.

Also Green & G.S.W.
 
Chris,

The way to see more Kingfishers, and to be ready for a photo, is to learn the call. Same is true of all birds, of course, and especially lesser-spotted woodpecker. This time of year is good for LSW, before the trees are in leaf.

Graham
 
I was a regular at Moore before moving here. I have found it the best place to see LSW, and this time of year is by far the easiest time to view them. Opposite the hide on Lapwing lane is a good place, also further up the lane, over the old canal bridge and on the left after the bend. Kingfisher are regular there too, either the Lapwing lane hide, or the eastern reedbed. If you go there, and ask anyone where the Tawnys are, im sure most people will be happy to show you, i can send you a map f you drop me a line. Take a look at this too http://www.wrg.co.uk/moorenaturereserve/
 
Hi.
The Tawny Owl can often be seen in the same tree. DIRECTIONS......
As you go over the main steel swing bring, turn right and park about 500 yards up (just before the factory unit). Go through the gate and follow the path leading to Birchwood pool then branch off as though going back towards the feeding station. Just BEFORE the wooden bridge you will see several ivy covered trees to the left and its up there (see attached photo). It is extremely well camouflaged and difficult to spot.

I have never seen a Kingfisher there but last week was speaking to someone who had just seen it from the hide at the eastern reed beds. The best place for me has been Mere Sands Wood (several times)-both attached were taken there.
I have seen them at Marbury but not close enough to photograph.

From the feeding hide you would be very UNFORTUNATE not to see GSW-we saw 4 together last time (3 on one tree & 1 on the next tree)-quite amazing
Again the attached was taken there a few weeks ago.
 

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Cracking shots there David.

Weekend before last was my only visit to Moore, and time-constrained. Walking down from the the swing-bridge towards the feeding station we heard Green Woodpecker after just 200m or so, and were able to locate the bird beyond the trees to the right of the track. GSWs are everywhere: 15 mins at the feeders brought several, very close; I was able to video one. We were then shown the Tawny roost site by a regular who repeated that it is "always there," even when concluding that on that occasion it wasn't! We didn't see a Kingfisher, but did see numerous Willow Tits which, like the Green Woodie, is a good sighting for those of us from the right side of the Mersey.

David's right about Mere Sands being a place for camera-obliging Kingfishers, too
 
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Forgot about the Willow Tits. Now I cannot tell a Willow from a Marsh but was informed on BF that Marsh are unlikely in this part of Cheshire/Lancasire (Pennington Flash etc.)
Took these at Moore a few weeks ago.
 

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Forgot about the Willow Tits. Now I cannot tell a Willow from a Marsh but was informed on BF that Marsh are unlikely in this part of Cheshire/Lancasire (Pennington Flash etc.)
Took these at Moore a few weeks ago.

Marsh Tit has a small dispersed breeding population in Cheshire. There are several good sites where I know they've already been seen and heard this year. A pair that appeared in my local woods 3 years ago have unfortunately moved on / died after breeding once and attempting in other years. They could have come from a local breeding population along the Dee near Chester or from an area around Frodsham where they ahve beeen caught and ringed infrequently. There was also a confirmed sighting of a bird at Moore several years ago.

The Mersey Valley is a stronghold for Willow Tits with birds being present at Risley Moss, Woolston & Moore.
 
Wow! MANY many thanks for all of the fantastic replies to this.. I was not expecting much in the way of response to be honest (mainly because it is such a lengthy post!), but it is great to see a forum that is not only alive and kicking, but has plenty of local people too!

I will almost certainly be back at Moore this weekend, and will be trying Marbury too, girlfriend, weather, work and time permitting :)

I think i walked past a gentleman with his tripod mounted scope set up in the ditch next to a wooden bridge, and trained upon what i now guess would have been the tawny roost on Sunday afternoon. i wondered what was up there, as the scope was ftrained on something towards the top of the tree and he appeared quite focussed... I did not dare to intrude and risk appearing rude by asking what he was looking at though :/ 'tis obvious now! Perhaps it was someone on this forum... That said we met some very pleasant folks down by the feeding station who also had plenty of sage advice to give.

We actually live in Chester, but I work in Newton Le Willows, and my other half works in Warrington, and i have been in work a lot at the weekends making Moore an obvious choice. If anyone has any suggestions for sites closer to home, or south of Chester, then I would love to hear about them.. variety is as they say the spice of life!

Anyway thanks again all, maybe i will bump into some of you on my travels.. Just look for the guy ranting about kingfishers... (or lack there of). That said, i am sure my luck will now change, and it sounds like i will be seeing woodpeckers and possibly the owls too if i keep my eyes open.

Regards,

-chris-
 
Dont be afraid to ask if you see anyone with a scope trained on something, you might miss something, like the Tawnys for example, thats where they live, right where the guy was looking.
 
Hi it may have been me looking at the owl through my scope off the bridge on sunday pm. I was originally on the bridge and lots of passers by had a look through the scope but we were in the way of joggers so i moved back so the path was clear. A few people passed without comment after that i just hope its not because im a miserable looking git lol. In the future just ask for a look because i have yet to be shunned by true birder. Good luck wth the kingfisher i live in northwich have seen them a few times at marbury this year.
 
If anyone has any suggestions for sites closer to home, or south of Chester, then I would love to hear about them.. variety is as they say the spice of life!

You prob already know anout Inner Marsh Farm RSPB. If not, well worth a visit, gets all kinds of birds that are scarcities anywhere else. You have to be a member to visit due to access restrictions at the moment.
On the other hand if you like walking a bit, or having "your own" patch to yourself and finding your own birds, the River Dee around Aldford is nice. I used to go there regularly from Altrincham. Never had any megas, but had a Firecrest from the blue bridge, Pink Foot upstream on the floods, regular Mandarins, Marsh Tits. A Ring Necked Duck has been seen near there, and Golden Oriole at the Crook of Dee. It's a nice walk along the river to/from Eccleston where Firecrests have been reported, although it seems there are no longer any Hawfinches. Upstream, Farndon has had some great local birds like Quail and Yellow Wagtail. Again, if you like your own patch, Peckforton/Burwardsley is an interesting area, esp if you've got your mrs with you. There have been reports of Firecrest here, from the "Holly Tunnel" which i think is over the hill from the Lodge House, though my memory's a bit dim. You'll get a good idea of sites from the Cheshire Bird Report. Wirral has lots of good birding. Across the border, Connahs Quay Deeside Naturalists Reserve has great potential.
Cheers.
 
Thanks for the suggestions all, i hope to be visiting a few new places tomorrow / next week depending on how things are with work. I certainly now have plenty to choose from! Have just discovered Wigg Island too, through a bit of googling, which sounds good and isnt so far away.

We spent this afternoon back at Moore, and - having walked straight back to that particular tree, spotted one of the tawnys straight away. I have to say what an amazing specimen! (he/she) was much larger than i was expecting, and what lovely pale colouration!

Theconstantwalker - we very nearly did ask for a peek down your scope, but shyness overcame both of us - next time we shall be bolder! I must admit everyone we have bumped into in the last few weeks and started a conversation with has been very friendly and helpful, a group who walked passed us just as we had spotted the tawny gave us a friendly, knowing smile too, probly because we were both grinning ear to ear.

It was getting dark when we left, so we passed a second time - still in exactly the same place. Any idea roughly what time they leave the roost to go out hunting? is it early dusk, or more like midnight / early hours of the morning?

Still no kingfishers.. despite finally getting down to the old canal and walking back up along it on the far side of the reedbeds, which eventually took us to a hide we had seen before but never visited. Rumours of lesser spotted woodpeckers abound though.. needless to say we didnt see any of those either. Theres always next weekend :)
 
I joined the wardens guided walk at Moore NR this morning and met some lovely people. The Tawny Owl,Snipe,Oystercatcher and yes a Kingfisher at the pump house pool almost as soon as we arrived in the hide.Like yourselves a new hobby for me but i can see it becoming an obsession.
 
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Well, i have to say at least one more big "thank you" to all of you for your patience, answering my questions, and giving great advice.

Karen and I returned to Moore Yesterday morning and spent an hour and a half or so at the usual hides. It was a little cold and a little overcast, so we packed it in about mid day and went camera shopping - ive been in the market for a DSLR for myself for a while (still looking at one for karen, though thanks to someone on this very forum that may well be sorted now also).

I ended up parting with the cash for a new 400d and 55 - 250 IS lens. Really nice lens too, its opened up my photography no end - all the hard work and 'fussyness' of compact 'prosumer' style cameras is no more.

anyway, having brought the camera we had to try it out.

First port of call was the feeding station. Not a lot happening there, but just as we started to walk awaywe spotted two grey squirrels ransacking the place. I have a fantastic series of shots that I am very pleased with.

Walked back to the tawny roost.. he wasnt there! blast. Got some of my best shots ever of a robin on the way up the road though.

Wandered across to one of the pools further down, and sat in the hide eating some snaks... when Karen (who is watching through some binoculars) suddenly pokes me and says.. "theres a very orange bird over there, just landed in a tree... it really is *very* orange...".

...silence...


"its just turned around.. its very blue aswell.. we could be onto something here..."


"!!!!It just jumped into the water... its got a fish!!! Its definitely a [some choice words] kingfisher!!!"

So i was able to get some photos from quite a distance.. and after watching for a while it came and sat in the trees infront of the hide!

To cut a long story short, we spent a fair while watching, but it was getting dark. Oh for another 200 - 300 mm of zoom, and more light (or better lens!) i was thinking.

so we returned today, and there were two of them in exactly the same place.. at times sat on the same branch, or one above the other. One of them is seriously fat - the male i assume ;) - the other much smaller, and slightly duller looking, im guessing a young female? He must have dived for fish about 5 or 6 times while we were watching, and they seemed to be taking it in turns flying back behind some reed on the opposite side of the pool.

So.. hopefully some Juvenile kingfishers will be in the area very soon.

Again a big thank you for all the encouragement, this has really made my day / week / month. am glad i didnt give up looking.. just need to find another site now where i can get just a little closer (or buy a sigma bigma lens :) )
 
Wandered across to one of the pools further down, and sat in the hide eating some snaks... when Karen (who is watching through some binoculars) suddenly pokes me and says.. "theres a very orange bird over there, just landed in a tree... it really is *very* orange...".

Chris-which pool was this??
 
Dead chuffed for you. Its a real pleasure to see what you were after and if you think about it, it really hasnt taken much effort, just a bit of patience and a bit of local knowledge. Enjoy your new hobby. I am!!!
 
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