Juneau, Alaska (2 Viewers)

[Deb335077]

This was taken in Juneau, Alaska last week, would it be a Northwestern Crow or a common Raven

Thank you
Debbie

 

[Bewick]

Looks ok for an American crow imo

 

[Deb335077]

Looks ok for an American crow imo

I thought American Crows did not appear in this area as the Audubon Bird list for Juneau, just the Northwestern Crow is listed not the American Crow

 

[Bewick]

I thought American Crows did not appear in this area as the Audubon Bird list for Juneau, just the Northwestern Crow is listed not the American Crow

Depends if you consider it a species or not- personally resources I use don't consider them one.

 

[Deb335077]

thank you for your explanation

 

[Trinovid]

This is really interesting for me because it seems like we always call all of them ravens up here.

 

[Butty]

we always call all of them ravens up here

Maybe because all of them are ravens - wherever 'up here' is.

 

[Michael Long]

This is really interesting for me because it seems like we always call all of them ravens up here.

American (Northwestern) Crows only occur in the immediate southern coast in Alaska, from Kodiak Island and all along the coast east and south until the very end of the Alaskan Panhandle. If you live outside of that area then all Corvus would indeed be Ravens.

 

[Indobirder]

This is a Common Raven imo (head shape, eye position, nasal bristles)

the only thing that stikes me as crow like is the tail, which is important, but I don't see the rest adding up.

any more pictures?

 

[Bewick]

This is a Common Raven imo (head shape, eye position, nasal bristles)

Nasal bristles seem much better for a crow then a raven. Also the heaviness of the bill seems better for a crow as well. I’ve never heard of the eye being a feature.

 

[Indobirder]

i guess im wrong then 👌👍

 

[Bewick]

i guess im wrong then 👌👍

No you could be right- just need to some more opinions from others.

 

[Jeff Hopkins]

American (formerly Northwestern) Crow for me.

 

[Butty]

Common Raven imo (head shape, eye position, nasal bristles)

Numerous threads on here have shown that such features aren't reliable - at least for distinguishing raven from carrion crow - though American crow seems to me to be weedier than carrion crow so maybe they're a bit easier to tell from raven. But experience makes me very reluctant to identify silent birds on the ground; calling and/or flying they're far far easier.