• Welcome to BirdForum, the internet's largest birding community with thousands of members from all over the world. The forums are dedicated to wild birds, birding, binoculars and equipment and all that goes with it.

    Please register for an account to take part in the discussions in the forum, post your pictures in the gallery and more.
Where premium quality meets exceptional value. ZEISS Conquest HDX.

Experience-Review of Canon 4,0 / 400 DO IS USM (1 Viewer)

bubo_bubo

Well-known member
Hello Telefans:

for those who want to read something from the daily practice, some information material of a really great (underrated) lens.

First I must say, that I am a bird photographer who has specialized in photographing as many species of birds for scientific purposes. First I checked my needs exactly and then me 2 years ago, the Canon 400mm f4 DO purchased new. The quick and dirty summary in the reviews normally goes like is:
• Sharpness is very good, but falls off dramatically with TCs
• Contrast very low (but might be adjusted if shooting RAW via Photoshop)
• Very light and portable for a large aperture lens (not only for a 400mm)
• High price
• Old-fashioned IS
As a dissatisfied Nikon-Photographer I was looking for a completely new photographic system.

I am bird photographer who has specialized in photographing as many species of birds for scientific purposes as possible. First I checked my needs exactly. I hike a lot in different areas to find birds - in the mountains at 2500m asl or in the rain forest. Weight plays a major role. The lens should fit into a (not-too-big) backpack preferably with the hood attached. Weight and handling should enable fire-ready very fast. An Image Stabelizer should eliminate the need to carry a tripod. Aperture is important because I am often outdoor in twilight or in closed forests.

Eventually I decided for the Canon 400mm f4,0 in combination with a Canon 1D Mark IV. I also bought a Canon 580EX II Flash and a Canon Extender EF 1.4x II

Here is the field report http://www.bird-lens.com/2012/07/12/canon-400mm-f4-do-an-experience-review/ ; (also available in German: http://www.bird-lens.com/2012/07/12/canon-400mm-f40-do-is-usm-ein-erfahrungsbericht/ )

Images that were shot with the 400, there are here: http://www.bird-lens.com/photos-2/birds-in-macin-mountains-romania/ or http://www.bird-lens.com/photos-2/breeding-birds-of-the-seychelles/
Have fun!

Greetings

Johannes

www.bird-lens.com
 
Many thanks, Johannes. Your report makes a very interesting read concerning a lens that has had mixed reviews in the past. It is one that I have considered to go with my 1DMkIV.

Mike
 
Many thanks, Johannes. Your report makes a very interesting read concerning a lens that has had mixed reviews in the past. It is one that I have considered to go with my 1DMkIV.

Mike

If you know the limits of the lens, it works perfect..... Especially I like it for flights shots from a boat.
For this, I do not know something better - and I tried it with several alternatives.
Cheers
Johannes
 
I have tried 2 used examples of the 400 DO and the only significant fault I could find was the price! I am using a Canon 300mm F2.8 L IS Mk1 but would swop it for one of those 400 DO lenses in a heartbeat!
 
I have tried 2 used examples of the 400 DO and the only significant fault I could find was the price! I am using a Canon 300mm F2.8 L IS Mk1 but would swop it for one of those 400 DO lenses in a heartbeat!

I am curious as to why you would prefer the 400 DO to the 300 f2.8. From what I can see the 300 f2.8 is only a couple of hundred grams heavier, has f2.8 for low light situations and with a 1.4x tc delivers image quality that is at least equal to the DO. I have shot with a 300 f2.8 but not with a 400 DO so a, only going by wha I have was about the DO so woud be interested to hear it from someone who has used both in the field.
 
I am curious as to why you would prefer the 400 DO to the 300 f2.8. From what I can see the 300 f2.8 is only a couple of hundred grams heavier, has f2.8 for low light situations and with a 1.4x tc delivers image quality that is at least equal to the DO. I have shot with a 300 f2.8 but not with a 400 DO so a, only going by wha I have was about the DO so woud be interested to hear it from someone who has used both in the field.

I bought my Canon 300 F2.8 L IS Mk1 last October and, frankly, cannot fault it. It gives me a very fast/sharp 300mm, a fast/sharp 420mm and a high quality (but a little slow in the AF dept) 600 F5.6 with 1.4 Mk2 and 2 x Mk3 extenders. All in all excellent for a 2.5 kilo lens that I paid 2101 quid for. I am VERY happy with it!
As to the 400 DO. I have read many posts and reviews that slag off this lens, so when my local camera shop had a used one in I tried it. I compared it directly against my Canon 600 F4 L IS Mk1 photographing the back bumper of a BMW 320 (both at the same range). As expected the 600 gave crisp, sharp images with excellent colour and contrast. However the 400 DO, whilst lacking a bit in contrast and having more muted colours showed me that the lacquer on the BMW's paint had crazed slightly - the 600 did not show this despite the extra 200mm of reach. I was rather surprised at this - though I still reckon the 600 is a "Better" lens. A few months later the same camera shop had another (used) 400 DO in so I repeated this simple test and got the same results.
Given the optical formula of the DO lenses I was not expecting high resolution , let alone out resolving a much longer lens at the same range (approx 25 meters)!
The 400 DO is not perfect, but for a walkabout, high resolution telephoto I have seen nothing (yet) to compare with the 2 examples I tried - if one can live with/correct the reduced contrast and muted colours. However there is a catch (there always is) - in this case there are two. Firstly there is a lot of bad press from people who have obviously never used it and, more importantly, there is the price. Regardless of how much I like it it is simply NOT worth the asking price! The 2 used examples I tried were priced at 4K (UK), the 300 F2.6 L IS I bought was 2101 (UK) - bit of a no brainer really! I love the 400 DO but it is simply overpriced, halve the cost and then we are talking! This is why I went for the excellent 300 F2.8!
 
Last edited:
Warning! This thread is more than 12 years ago old.
It's likely that no further discussion is required, in which case we recommend starting a new thread. If however you feel your response is required you can still do so.

Users who are viewing this thread

Back
Top