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Collins bird guide 2nd edition large format (2 Viewers)

I have real trouble reading the small print in the standard 1st edition so splashed out on the new large format 2nd edition after Amazon's latest additional reduction (to £26.19). Got to be one of THE most outstanding buys!! So nice to enjoy those wonderful illustrations with eyes relaxed instead of screwed up trying to focus!

Yes, it has the 'pink-faced' Common Starling and the overprinted Kurdish/Persian Wheatear names (and incomplete annotation next to Persian). Sabine's Gull page is fine. I guess the Starling and Sabine's faults might vary between different parts of the current printrun, but the name issue must be in every copy of this printing. Sloppy proofing but for virtually half-price I'm not complaining!
 
Yes I also got it now. Phantastic book, I am discovering the drawings anew, particularely the small ones that show birds in their habitat. In the normal edition they are just too small to be enjoyable.

Having this at home also allows worrying less about abusing the field book now...

Florian

Ps, same printing errors here, but can live with that...
 
Sorry for resurrecting this thread but.. anyone have any idea when the new printing - hopefully without wheatear and starling errors - is going to come out?
 
Might be worth waiting rather than buying unseen?

The "Blick ins Buch" feature shows that the starling has no red head in the German version. Still at first, at €80 considerably more expensive than the English edition. But when I actually ordered it, Amazon.de automatically deducted an imaginary coupon or voucher and some tax so I ended up with €64, including free shipping. Thus a very decent price, after all.
 
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Some impressions of the German edition

The "Blick ins Buch" feature shows that the starling has no red head in the German version.........

Got my German language version today, and I wonder how it compares to the English version. That's why I'm reviewing it a bit here. I have the large first edition by Collins, and FG editions in both languages both first and second ones. But I'm trying to restrict my comparison to the first large English and the second German FG editions.

Over all, this is still a very attractive book, but if one has the first large edition, I doubt that getting the second one would be a must. Kosmos Verlag, the German publisher has definitely cut some corners with this second edition. For one, it comes with a paper cover instead of the fabric of the first edition. And this paper does not instill any confidence in its durability. Second, the paper used in the book is more matted and less white than the large English edition and the small German one. (Always as said at the onset, comparing my new volume with the large Collins and the small German FG, the latter published by Kosmos.) Again, it is my impression that this is a cheaper version paper.

The printing looks less crisp than in the first edition. An example: comparing the standing adult White-tailed Eagle, it looks in the first edition as if it had been photographed with a HD lens, whereas the second edition shows the same bird more like photographed through a non-HD lens.

I recall that subsequent editions of the old European Peterson FG lost more and more nuances in the illustrations, and the over all impression was that the plates kept getting darker. This same impression is coming up here in some cases, though it may only be obvious in a direct comparison. Also, some plates look more washed out, not darker. But there are also cases where illustrations benefit from this. Thus the summer Black Guillemot now appears more differentiated.

It had been reported of the English edition, that there were some printing inadequacies. Well, here the Starling's head is just fine. But the book seems to have somewhat of a problem with greys. This is particularly apparent on some of the gull plates. The first-winter Slender-billed Gull (P. 181) has some grey protruding from its neck. It looks like the first edition had a slight problem there as well, but it was either retouched or it does not irritate because it's so faint. Same problem on the juvenile Slender-billed individual, here on the belly, just behind the legs. Then, I first thought that the lacking pink on the underparts of the breeding adult Slender-billed Gull had now been corrected. But virtually the same color (or shade of grey) is now "gracing" most gulls on that plate. And at least two birds (adult Slender-billed and 1st winter Bonaparte's gull have a grey rim around their dark bill. Of course, these inadequacies show much more in the large edition, whereas they are hardly noticeable in the FG.

The larger range maps are definitely a step forward. I also like the presentation up front of the authors/artists.
 
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I came across the German version yesterday in a bookstore and had a brief look. I think the print quality is the same or very similar to the English version (that I own), without the obvious printing mistakes in the starling and the wheatears.
Some plates are of lesser quality, e.g. the page with Sabine's Gull, those of lesser quality are the same in the English and the German version.

Florian

Ps: talking about the 2nd edition in both languages here, I don't know the 1st large edition.
 
I've been trying to find a 'perfect' copy for almost a year, and so far I'm not sure that there is one with a proper starling, let alone wheatears. And I've managed to find things like brand new 1st edition large format for £24 or so...
 
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