Chiffchaff or willow warbler? - New Forest 08/23 (1 Viewer)

[WildTotarda]

Not sure about this one, legs seem too dark for willow but the coloration makes me think otherwise.

Thanks in advance

Jose

 

[lou salomon]

it's a Willow Warbler. outer primaries a bit displaced but still make it to a long primary projection.

 

[Butty]

legs seem too dark for willow

Not a reliable feature.

 

[WildTotarda]

it's a Willow Warbler. outer primaries a bit displaced but still make it to a long primary projection.

Thank you

 

[WildTotarda]

Not a reliable feature.

Thank you

 

[Muppit17]

Whilst I totally agree with Butty, the pale feet are a give away. Chiffchaff normally have dark feet, Willow Warbler pale irrespective of the colour of the legs.

 

[WildTotarda]

Whilst I totally agree with Butty, the pale feet are a give away. Chiffchaff normally have dark feet, Willow Warbler pale irrespective of the colour of the legs.

Thank you!

 

[Butty]

the pale feet are a give away. Chiffchaff normally have dark feet, Willow Warbler pale irrespective of the colour of the legs.

Is it really as simple as that? If it was, we would all be making certain willowchiff IDs just on the basis of toe colour. You may well be right, but I would be interested if others can corroborate. I thought the only rule that worked was 'ignore the toes'.

 

[maplekong]

Whilst I totally agree with Butty, the pale feet are a give away. Chiffchaff normally have dark feet, Willow Warbler pale irrespective of the colour of the legs.

I never knew that! It'll be really helpful.

 

[lou salomon]

Is it really as simple as that? If it was, we would all be making certain willowchiff IDs just on the basis of toe colour. You may well be right, but I would be interested if others can corroborate. I thought the only rule that worked was 'ignore the toes'.

it works in most cases but chiffchaffs with yellow toes exist as exist WW with concolorous dark toes and legs.

 

[maplekong]

Noooooooooo- I thought I could finally tell them apart...