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Oleander

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Hi,

I am really tired of not finding any caterpillars out in the wild and not getting females in my traps. Is there any site on the internet where you can buy moth eggs? And if it is in Britain, do you think I could get them to ship them over to where I live?

I'm mostly interested in Privet Hawk-moth and Puss Moth.

I am desperate! ;)
 
Dosnt that website have a page of moths that are available at the monment?
also try,
http://www.lba.uk.com/
&
www.wwb.co.uk
though you have to be careful with what you do with them once there in there adult stage. certain sp. (even ones you may get in the area) cannot be introduced back into the wild if its in a diffrent area than they were collected.
Id connect the website first and double check if your thinking of buying live stock online.
you could have fellow moth'ers very excited near you if you realised somthing tropical ;) haha
 
though you have to be careful with what you do with them once there in there adult stage. certain sp. (even ones you may get in the area) cannot be introduced back into the wild if its in a diffrent area than they were collected.
Id connect the website first and double check if your thinking of buying live stock online.
you could have fellow moth'ers very excited near you if you realised somthing tropical ;) haha

I won't breed anything that doesn't belong here, and Privet Hawk-moth is quite common but I've only seen the caterpillar once. I found it crawling over the road to find a pupation site, maybe 8 years ago.

Ken, sorry I don't know what 'grape-vine' is |^|
 
Kalle Hi,

Grapevine...In the context that it was meant ie...'Information put out to other moth-ers!

cheers
 
... I have a book which states that September is the best month to search for Privets (and first week of July for Puss moths) caterpillars

...
 
Thanks for explaining for me :t:

Dantheman, I've been out day and night since middle of June looking for Puss Moth 'pillars, but with no success. And I searched every Ash tree and lilac bush around here last year, but didn't find anything. I think the Privets live mostly in the tree tops of Ash.
 
Dantheman Hi,

According to Lewington July-Sep...for Puss Moth Larva! Your suggesting 1st week in July as optimum 'search' period?...with the odds 'against' decreasing till Sep.? It has been suggested that they are normally found within the first metre or so above ground level in the appropriate Sallow/Willow/Poplar etc. It wouldn't surprise me if the 'window' for finding...is short as you suggested...meaning it's probably already to late!

cheers
 
Dantheman Hi,

According to Lewington July-Sep...for Puss Moth Larva! Your suggesting 1st week in July as optimum 'search' period?...with the odds 'against' decreasing till Sep.? It has been suggested that they are normally found within the first metre or so above ground level in the appropriate Sallow/Willow/Poplar etc. It wouldn't surprise me if the 'window' for finding...is short as you suggested...meaning it's probably already to late!

cheers

I think most caterpillars hatch around the first week of July and since they sit on top of the leaves in the first intars, they are easiest to spot then.
 
If someone here on BirdForum have eggs of Privet and be willing to send some in a letter or something to me, please PM me! I don't know how much it would cost to send a letter from the UK to Sweden, but there is probably one way or another for me to pay.
 
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If someone here on BirdForum have eggs of Privet and be willing to send some in a letter or something to me, please PM me! I don't know how much it would cost to sent a letter from the UK to Sweden, but there is probably one way or another for me to pay.

Kalle, I would be careful importing anything like this- and never release anything bred from imported eggs. It is not only the problem of introducing new species, but also by polluting the local forms and species already being around You, with the "new" things you release. Be patient, there is plenty of things to experience in the butterfly world, without being a risk to it by the way we act.

Svein B
 
Thanks for explaining for me :t:

Dantheman, I've been out day and night since middle of June looking for Puss Moth 'pillars, but with no success. And I searched every Ash tree and lilac bush around here last year, but didn't find anything. I think the Privets live mostly in the tree tops of Ash.

Kalle,

All my Puss Moth larvae pupated two weeks ago. Why not make a beating tray and use that to collect larvae? You'll find more carerpillars in a single days beating, than you can breed with ease.

Poplar Hawk Moth are still on the wing, even though I have locally bred larvae about to pupate.

Harry
 
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Kalle,

All my Puss Moth larvae pupated two weeks ago. Why not make a beating tray and use that to collect larvae? You'll find more carerpillars in a single days beating, than you can breed with ease.

Poplar Hawk Moth are still on the wing, even though I have locally bred larvae about to pupate.

Harry

I am actually going to buy a beating tray/net tomorrow and some wine to try 'sugaring'. Maybe I'll get to see some more Crimson Underwings!
I have about 50 Poplar Hawk-moth larvae and they all are in the first or second instar.

I have never used the beating method before, do you have tips or tricks to get a Puss Moth larvae in the net? ;) I know you have told me before that it is pointless to hit the branch twice as they take a harder grip of the twig that they are sitting on. Do you know where exactly the caterpillars sit in the bushes? Is it near the leaves or closer to the stem?
 
Kalle,

All my Puss Moth larvae pupated two weeks ago. Why not make a beating tray and use that to collect larvae? You'll find more carerpillars in a single days beating, than you can breed with ease

Harry Hi,

What is the 'caterpillar window' for Puss moth? are we talking just a few days?
by coincidence I trimmed the top 8' off my sallow today....presumably to late to look for the larvae?

To echo Kalle's request.....I would be interested to know the equipment and procedure.

cheers;)
 
Kalle, I would be careful importing anything like this- and never release anything bred from imported eggs. It is not only the problem of introducing new species, but also by polluting the local forms and species already being around You, with the "new" things you release. Be patient, there is plenty of things to experience in the butterfly world, without being a risk to it by the way we act.

Svein B

Wise advice.

Allen
 
I am actually going to buy a beating tray/net tomorrow and some wine to try 'sugaring'. Maybe I'll get to see some more Crimson Underwings!
I have about 50 Poplar Hawk-moth larvae and they all are in the first or second instar.

I have never used the beating method before, do you have tips or tricks to get a Puss Moth larvae in the net? ;) I know you have told me before that it is pointless to hit the branch twice as they take a harder grip of the twig that they are sitting on. Do you know where exactly the caterpillars sit in the bushes? Is it near the leaves or closer to the stem?

Hello Kalle & Kenm,

The ova I obtained were from my County Recorder for moths, these were laid between the 5th and the 10th of May and the first ova hatched on the 15th and the last on the 20th May

The larva are very voracious indeed and when they're full grown they're BIG. The first started to spin cocoons on the 10th June and the last on the 15th of June, more or less matching their hatching dates.

So from hatching ova to pupating larvae about 4-5 weeks. This may vary in the wild of course and the larval life may be a week or 10 days longer depending on the weather.

Most of the Puss Moths I have bred over many years came from ova, but I have found wild larvae, usually when I was looking for something else. I wouldn't mind a Pound Coin for every time that's happened in 50+ years.

I invariably found them on the edge of a Sallow leaf where the purple saddle on the back of the caterpillar makes it look like a partially dead and curled leaf. Their markings actually make you think it's something else. Most I have found have been between 3 to 5 feet from the ground, but I haven't really looked any higher.

Puss Moths are attracted to light, but seldom enter the trap, preferring to alight on a surface where they can just sit in the glow of the bulb, as do a number of species. Often moths doing this will be eaten by the early bird looking for his worm. lol.

When using the beating tray hold it about a foot or eighteen inches below the branch you intend to strike. This allows for some movement of the branch bur will allow larva to drop free. Hit the branch once only and don't hit it hard enough to damage the bark. The larva grip or hold on just tightly enough so they won't fall off. Once you have hit the branch they hang on like they were Superglued in place. Any larva you don't require tap them off the tray onto the base of the trunk so they can climb back up to feed.

I have found Puss Moth Larvae on most of the varieties of Sallow, Poplar, Willow and Aspen. I haven't seen them feeding on anything else.

These Puss Moth larvae shouldn't be too difficult to find provided they do occur in your area.

Harry
 
Hello Kalle & Kenm,

The ova I obtained were from my County Recorder for moths, these were laid between the 5th and the 10th of May and the first ova hatched on the 15th and the last on the 20th May

The larva are very voracious indeed and when they're full grown they're BIG. The first started to spin cocoons on the 10th June and the last on the 15th of June, more or less matching their hatching dates.

So from hatching ova to pupating larvae about 4-5 weeks. This may vary in the wild of course and the larval life may be a week or 10 days longer depending on the weather.

Most of the Puss Moths I have bred over many years came from ova, but I have found wild larvae, usually when I was looking for something else. I wouldn't mind a Pound Coin for every time that's happened in 50+ years.

I invariably found them on the edge of a Sallow leaf where the purple saddle on the back of the caterpillar makes it look like a partially dead and curled leaf. Their markings actually make you think it's something else. Most I have found have been between 3 to 5 feet from the ground, but I haven't really looked any higher.

Puss Moths are attracted to light, but seldom enter the trap, preferring to alight on a surface where they can just sit in the glow of the bulb, as do a number of species. Often moths doing this will be eaten by the early bird looking for his worm. lol.

When using the beating tray hold it about a foot or eighteen inches below the branch you intend to strike. This allows for some movement of the branch bur will allow larva to drop free. Hit the branch once only and don't hit it hard enough to damage the bark. The larva grip or hold on just tightly enough so they won't fall off. Once you have hit the branch they hang on like they were Superglued in place. Any larva you don't require tap them off the tray onto the base of the trunk so they can climb back up to feed.

I have found Puss Moth Larvae on most of the varieties of Sallow, Poplar, Willow and Aspen. I haven't seen them feeding on anything else.

These Puss Moth larvae shouldn't be too difficult to find provided they do occur in your area.

Harry

Thank you very very much for the time you spend answering my questions!
 
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