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Are Great Tits as charming? (1 Viewer)

Gretchen

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I saw an article in our "local" paper about the unique charm of chickadees. (If you like, see here.) I think the writer's main thought is correct: in the States a lot of people find chickadees to be special, and people who pay any attention to birds often have an interest story about chickadees.

I wonder if the same is true in Britain (or anywhere in Europe or Asia)? I have heard stories about Blue Tits (I think) taking the cream off of milk bottles, but is there any of the tit species (wherever you are) that consistently seems to have interesting interactions with people or are noted for their fascinating activities?
 
I saw an article in our "local" paper about the unique charm of chickadees. (If you like, see here.) I think the writer's main thought is correct: in the States a lot of people find chickadees to be special, and people who pay any attention to birds often have an interest story about chickadees.

I wonder if the same is true in Britain (or anywhere in Europe or Asia)? I have heard stories about Blue Tits (I think) taking the cream off of milk bottles, but is there any of the tit species (wherever you are) that consistently seems to have interesting interactions with people or are noted for their fascinating activities?

We have several varieties of the tit family. Chickadee sounds a bit more polite! Their full name is really Titmouse.
We trained them to take peanuts from our hand one hard Winter and this was an interesting experiment for two reasons

Firstly I was able to assess their range as they followed me down the farm for over a mile. I had previously thought that they would have a far more limited range.

Secondly having a break from the nuts in the Summer they still had the memory from the previous year and this continued for several years until we had a series of mild Winters.

Some years the Tit barracking was so intense that the poor Postman was besieged and we had to give him a pocket full of nuts to keep them at bay!

Later I devised an intelligence test.

This comprised of a clear plastic tube about foot long and a couple of inches in diameter I soldered some coins on some wire and cut a slot in the side of the tube in six places in a line going down about two inches apart.

The wire was inserted into the tube and acted like a butterfly valve in a carburettor. one end of the wire was inserted through a hole which created a bearing and the other end sat in a u shaped slot as the other bearing.
This end continued out into a T piece where the bird could land on one side and tip the coin in the tube to release a peanut which was collected at the bottom. The wire was counterbalanced with another coin which closed the butterfly valve when the bird flew off.

I started with just one valve. At the top of the tube I made a funnel with some holes in it and a good supply of peanuts which the birds could peck at and dislodge into the tube a few at a time.

When the birds became familiar with this I introduced another valve. This stumped them for only a short time and eventually I put in half a dozen valves,

It was very good to see the bird hop nimbly from one valve to the next to release the nuts.

I found that the Blue Tits were very good and soon grasped the idea, the Great Tits were rather more clumsy and achieved a result more by luck than intelligence. But without doubt the most intelligent was the Coal Tit which waited at the bottom of the tube for the Blue Tits to do all the hard work and then rob them of the prize!

I think that the birds really enjoyed this machine and I do have an old cine film of them all having a go. I must transfer it to digital and put it on youtube for you.

We have also a dear little family of Long Tailed Tits who build the most beautiful nests. They always stick together as a family and drift through the garden usually half a dozen or more at a time.

Lovely little birds and always full of fun.
 
Wow, those Great Tits are beasts! :eek!: I'm not surprised that they are aggressive, but I hadn't thought they could kill other small birds. I guess the Tetrapod zoo was describing infrequent observations, but still quite interesting!

I had wondered if Coal or Willow Tits would be a bit more like Black-capped Chickadees. I've seen Chickadees eating the fat off of a frozen deer carcass: I was pretty shocked and then thought, well it's suet :-O But that is a pretty long way from killing other birds, and eating their brains!
 
Wow, those Great Tits are beasts! :eek!: I'm not surprised that they are aggressive, but I hadn't thought they could kill other small birds. I guess the Tetrapod zoo was describing infrequent observations, but still quite interesting!
They'll probably evolve into shrikes at some point...


I had wondered if Coal or Willow Tits would be a bit more like Black-capped Chickadees. I've seen Chickadees eating the fat off of a frozen deer carcass: I was pretty shocked and then thought, well it's suet :-O But that is a pretty long way from killing other birds, and eating their brains!
Great Tit and Blue Tit are the most common of the bunch by far, but out of the six species we have here (and in most of Europe, except the SE and NE) - Great, Blue, Marsh, Coal, Willow, and Crested Tit - the Blue Tit is probably the most charismatic species. It has the brightest colours and "cutest" look and is very lively and unafraid. Plus, unlike its "Great" cousin it isn't known for eating other birds.
Genetically speaking, obviously Marsh and Willow Tit are in the "chickadee" genus themselves and thus probably resemble Black-capped Chickadees in many ways. However, Willow Tits, like Crested Tits, are somewhat specialized in terms of habitat and unlikely to turn up at most feeders, and thus most people rarely encounter the latter two species.
 
I think of willow, marsh and coal tits to be most like N. American chickadees, mainly due to coloration, and I'd probably lump blue tit in with those. Our titmice seem more like old world crested tits, simply based on appearance, although they sound nothing alike.

Great tit is on it's own as far as N. American species go.
 
This is fascinating. Our everyday backyard customers are Great Tits, Blue Tits, House Sparrows, Tree Sparrows, Green Finches, and Blackbirds. We get frequent other visitors, but these six are the most reliable. Their personalities by breed are apparent.

Among this bunch, the Blackbirds do their own thing. The Great Tits and Blue Tits are by far the most inquisitive, active, and lively. We haven't tried any fun peanut tricks or hand-feeding though. Still, of the group, the Green Finches are the bullies.

On a side note, I read somewhere that the English term "titmice" derives from the German word "meise," which somewhat remotely sounds like the "mice" part of titmice. Great Tits and Blue Tits are "kohlmeise" and "blaumeise" respectively.
 
On a side note, I read somewhere that the English term "titmice" derives from the German word "meise," which somewhat remotely sounds like the "mice" part of titmice. Great Tits and Blue Tits are "kohlmeise" and "blaumeise" respectively.

Yes, correct; it should really be one titmice, two titmice. The name "titmouse" is a false 'singular' by incorrect analogy with the unrelated word mouse.
 
Wow, those Great Tits are beasts! :eek!: I'm not surprised that they are aggressive, but I hadn't thought they could kill other small birds. I guess the Tetrapod zoo was describing infrequent observations, but still quite interesting!

I had wondered if Coal or Willow Tits would be a bit more like Black-capped Chickadees. I've seen Chickadees eating the fat off of a frozen deer carcass: I was pretty shocked and then thought, well it's suet :-O But that is a pretty long way from killing other birds, and eating their brains!

I have read some old papers and Great Tit was reported eating brains out of finches? in an aviary enclosure. Several books reported Great Tit as regularly visiting the hog butchering sites (traditionally this is done outdoors in snowy conditions) to peck on any unattended meat bits. One year my mother left the pork cracklings on the balcony to cool after rendering lard, and by the time she checked half was gone :)

More and more city folks are into birdfeeders, and Blue and Great Tits are the most common visitors.
 
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