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AOU 51st supplement (1 Viewer)
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PDF of the 51st Supplement is now on the AOU site:
http://www.aou.org/checklist/suppl/AOU_checklist_suppl_51.pdf
http://www.aou.org/checklist/suppl/AOU_checklist_suppl_51.pdf
Richard Klim
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AOU-SACC proposals
SACC now has a series of proposals (#448-454, Aug 2010) to follow changes resulting from the 51st Supplement:
http://www.museum.lsu.edu/~Remsen/SACCproproster.html
Richard
SACC now has a series of proposals (#448-454, Aug 2010) to follow changes resulting from the 51st Supplement:
http://www.museum.lsu.edu/~Remsen/SACCproproster.html
Richard
Richard Klim
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Errata
The AOU website now identifies two errors in the supplement (the scoter name already discussed, and sequence within Cyanolyca).
http://www.aou.org/checklist/north/suppl/51.php#errors
Richard
The AOU website now identifies two errors in the supplement (the scoter name already discussed, and sequence within Cyanolyca).
http://www.aou.org/checklist/north/suppl/51.php#errors
Richard
Richard Klim
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Whip-poor-will & Winter Wren
David Sibley has produced draft range maps for the splits:
http://www.sibleyguides.com/2010/08/new-draft-range-maps-for-whip-poor-will
http://www.sibleyguides.com/2010/08/new-draft-range-maps-for-winter-wren
Richard
David Sibley has produced draft range maps for the splits:
http://www.sibleyguides.com/2010/08/new-draft-range-maps-for-whip-poor-will
http://www.sibleyguides.com/2010/08/new-draft-range-maps-for-winter-wren
Richard
mb1848
Well-known member
Peter: Does anyone know the author's name and date of the taxon name Suliformes, or who was the first person who used this term? Also Eurypygiformes.
Me:{Suliformes is a fish name:
A review of the genus Corydorax La Cepede 1803 (Pisces, Sulformes, Callichthyidae) Is not that bad form??}
“Callichthyidae is a member of the Siluriformes (catfish); "Sulformes" does not make sense and seems like it was probably a typo” I agree it was a typo. The Committee cited Hackett et al (2008) for this name but I have not read it.
Me: {Mathews used Suborder Eurypygiformes in 1915 The Austral avian record: a scientific journal devoted primarily .}
The Committee in the proposal said it was a new name and did not cite Mathews. ICZN The Code Introduction: The Code does not fully regulate the names of taxa above the family group. Chapter 1.2.2 Articles 1-4 7,-10 11.1-11.3 14 27 28 and 32.5.2.6 also regulate names of taxa at ranks above the family group. My question is under Article 10 is Eurypygiformes available???
Me:{Suliformes is a fish name:
A review of the genus Corydorax La Cepede 1803 (Pisces, Sulformes, Callichthyidae) Is not that bad form??}
“Callichthyidae is a member of the Siluriformes (catfish); "Sulformes" does not make sense and seems like it was probably a typo” I agree it was a typo. The Committee cited Hackett et al (2008) for this name but I have not read it.
Me: {Mathews used Suborder Eurypygiformes in 1915 The Austral avian record: a scientific journal devoted primarily .}
The Committee in the proposal said it was a new name and did not cite Mathews. ICZN The Code Introduction: The Code does not fully regulate the names of taxa above the family group. Chapter 1.2.2 Articles 1-4 7,-10 11.1-11.3 14 27 28 and 32.5.2.6 also regulate names of taxa at ranks above the family group. My question is under Article 10 is Eurypygiformes available???
Peter Kovalik
Well-known member
Sylviidae
This might be splitting hairs, but I'm still bothered by the arrangement around the breakup of old Sylviidae.
In the accepted proposal a suggested systematic arrangement also includes Alaudidae, Hirundinidae, Pycnonotidae and Aegithalidae. These are all part of the Sylvioidea radiation, with Paridae+Remizidae ususally put basally. But in the updated list I see this order:
Alaudidae+Hirundinidae
Paridae+Remizidae
Aegithalidae
Sittidae+Certhiidae+Troglodytidae+Polioptilidae
Cinclidae
Pycnonotidae
Regulidae
Cettiidae+Phylloscopidae (and then the proposed order)
What happened between the proposal and the supplement? Frankly, what's the point of breaking up Sylviidae due to paraphyly vs other passerines when it's not reflected in the systematic list?
This might be splitting hairs, but I'm still bothered by the arrangement around the breakup of old Sylviidae.
In the accepted proposal a suggested systematic arrangement also includes Alaudidae, Hirundinidae, Pycnonotidae and Aegithalidae. These are all part of the Sylvioidea radiation, with Paridae+Remizidae ususally put basally. But in the updated list I see this order:
Alaudidae+Hirundinidae
Paridae+Remizidae
Aegithalidae
Sittidae+Certhiidae+Troglodytidae+Polioptilidae
Cinclidae
Pycnonotidae
Regulidae
Cettiidae+Phylloscopidae (and then the proposed order)
What happened between the proposal and the supplement? Frankly, what's the point of breaking up Sylviidae due to paraphyly vs other passerines when it's not reflected in the systematic list?
Richard Klim
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Bahama Oriole
The newly split Icterus northropi Bahama Oriole (also recognised by IOC) qualifies for CR categorisation:
http://www.birdlife.org/community/2010/08/bahama-oriole-on-the-edge
Richard
The newly split Icterus northropi Bahama Oriole (also recognised by IOC) qualifies for CR categorisation:
http://www.birdlife.org/community/2010/08/bahama-oriole-on-the-edge
Richard
lewis20126
Well-known member
Not often you get an armchair CR - if you're struggling for time you can do this on a day return from Nassau.
cheers, a
Attachments
Richard Klim
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Bahama Oriole
[And I need Great Lizard Cuckoo for Bahamas/Nearctic - also available on Andros - plus a chance of West Indian Whistling Duck...]
Richard
Nice one, Alan!
[And I need Great Lizard Cuckoo for Bahamas/Nearctic - also available on Andros - plus a chance of West Indian Whistling Duck...]
Richard
Alan, is this your own picture? I don't think we have this form represented in the gallery (hint, hint) 
And Richard, if you go to the Bahamas, I would also look at some of the endemic races of other birds, such as the parrot, red-legged thrush, nuthatch, etc (I cannot remember which are available where in the Bahamas as I have never been)
Niels
And Richard, if you go to the Bahamas, I would also look at some of the endemic races of other birds, such as the parrot, red-legged thrush, nuthatch, etc (I cannot remember which are available where in the Bahamas as I have never been)
Niels
Richard Klim
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Bahamas
Richard
Yes. I've only birded Abaco and New Providence, so I missed several Bahamian species/forms found only on other islands (including Inagua Parrot and Bahama Nuthatch). Too many places to visit...
Richard
Gavin Bieber
Well-known member
I have several pics of northropi but have never had occasion to post to Opus, what is the procedure?
What we usually recommend is that you simply post to the gallery (hit the gallery tab and then click opload photo, follow the instructions). If you know or suspect that the picture shows something special (a new species or new, distinct subspecies for Opus, a female where only male is available, or a much better picture than the one in Opus), then a little note in this forum will catch the attention of the Opus editors.
Above was the simple version. In reality uploading a picture to Opus seems a little daunting first time you try, but by the third one it seems routine. All other sorts of Opus editing is really easy.
Send me a PM or make a request somewhere in this forum if anyone would like to try but feels it is scary.
Niels
Above was the simple version. In reality uploading a picture to Opus seems a little daunting first time you try, but by the third one it seems routine. All other sorts of Opus editing is really easy.
Send me a PM or make a request somewhere in this forum if anyone would like to try but feels it is scary.
Niels
Richard Klim
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Pacific & Winter Wrens
David Sibley, re identification:
http://www.sibleyguides.com/2010/08/distinguishing-pacific-and-winter-wrens
Richard
David Sibley, re identification:
http://www.sibleyguides.com/2010/08/distinguishing-pacific-and-winter-wrens
Richard
Richard Klim
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AOU-SACC proposals
http://www.museum.lsu.edu/~Remsen/SACCproproster.html
http://www.museum.lsu.edu/~Remsen/SACCprop452.html
Richard
Proposal #452 (to recognise parulid genus Parkesia) passed 7 Oct 2010.
http://www.museum.lsu.edu/~Remsen/SACCproproster.html
http://www.museum.lsu.edu/~Remsen/SACCprop452.html
Richard
lewis20126
Well-known member
Alan, is this your own picture? I don't think we have this form represented in the gallery (hint, hint)
And Richard, if you go to the Bahamas, I would also look at some of the endemic races of other birds, such as the parrot, red-legged thrush, nuthatch, etc (I cannot remember which are available where in the Bahamas as I have never been)
Niels
I'll try and work out how to upload it tonight - it isn't great - a video grab if I remember
cheers, alan
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