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Anyone have transition eyeglass lenses ? (3 Viewers)

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Beth
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Anyone use transition eyeglass lenses with binos?

I'm due for my 2yr eye exam next weekend and I'm thinking of
getting transition lenses. Currently, I have two pair of glasses, one being prescription sunglasses. I'm tired of having two pairs and two cases.
I'm wondering just how dark the transition lenses get in sunlight. Also, if you use or have used this type of lense if you liked them or not (when wearing them while birding).
 
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I used to have a pair, and didn't like them at all. It took too long for them lighten up inside, and were darker than I liked at times outdoors. For glassing I'd think they would hinder the process, I certainly am not willing to try :)
 
Hi GG (AB!), I've worn transition lenses in one form or another due to short-sightedness for decades, so can give a pretty good run down on them. I thoroughly recommend them :t:

First up the technology now is far ahead of previous iterations, ie. the range of the scale is larger - clearer clears, through to darker darks, along with a quicker transition time. They also react to different environments (different wavelength spectrum of light) in different ways. F'rinstance I've worn various ones numerous times way up above the snowline, on glaciers etc, where photographs of me show a distinct purplish mirrored finish to the lenses - I've never felt the need for any stronger light blocking sunglasses in those conditions. :cool:

Secondly, they 'age', ie. as time goes on the range of the scale they perform over lessens. ie. they don't quite go completely clear after a few years, and they don't quite darken as much or change as quickly from one to the other as they used to. After many years, you'll be getting around looking like Roy Orbison, in some neither here nor there light brownish coloured lenses! |8)|

As far as effects when using binoculars go, they will perform as in normal wearing - you won't notice that they're there, save for more comfort. Perhaps if Looksharp sees this he can add some more qualified information, but they seem to work in concert with your pupil, and as your eye normally would.

Remember they will be pressed up against the eyecups and so pretty much modulated by the light through the binocular that your eye would normally see. ie. if it is dark enough (twilight, heavy cloud or canopy cover, deep shade etc) where your pupil will normally open up, then they will clear right up to allow the maximum light through (even if you are standing in bright sunny conditions) - the lenses will be fully capable of being clear for the ocular diameter portion you are looking through, while at the same time being blacked out for the periphery that is directly exposed to the sun. You can neatly test this by sitting your glasses on a table by a window with direct sunlight falling on part of the lens - you'll soon see a neat demarcation line!

Conversely, if it is so bright that your pupil would normally constrict then just by comparison to the felt comfort of glare levels, then they must darken up somewhat - though you never notice it as any level of tangibly dark - just more comfortable ..... :cat:

As with all eyeglasses, there will be various grades, and levels of expense. When I get my next pair they will be the latest transitions, but I will pay much more attention to the type of material and indexation of the lenses etc to maximise transmission %, and minimise any introduction of extra chromatic aberrations (CA). We spend so much time obsessing about various bins and their views, that it is false economy not to buy the best of the best eyeglasses. Hope this helps o:D


Chosun :gh:
 
I just got rid of mine with my new pair of glasses. I thought they reduced the light I was able to see when using binoculars. I think that with birding and binoculars light is everything.
 
Depending on the usage they can be very handy. My prescrip polarized fishing glasses are transitions, and for that use I wouldnt take for them. Everyday glasses they would probably be fine but I am in and out so much that clip on shades work better. Like everything, you pick the tool that works best for your need. If you are spending a lot of time behind binocs or a camera view finder they may be troublesome,
 
I've worn transition lenses in one form or another due to short-sightedness for decades, so can give a pretty good run down on them. I thoroughly recommend them.

CJ parallels my experiences with transitions (also was near-sighted and 35 years user). I agree with CJ's details of their performance. I liked them, I needed them and had no issues glassing in bright daylight \ pre-dawn or dusk using them! Yes, just one pair of glasses is Quite Convenient!!

Ted
 
Thanks to all for the replies and to CJ for the detailed explanation of
how they work with binoculars. I have some thinnin' to do. I'll ask lots of questions
next Sunday at my appointment. Right now I have the polycarbonate
lenses for my clear pair and regular plastic for my polarized sunglasses. The sunglasses are just a tad
clearer/sharper compaired to the regular pair. The polycarbonate is not quite as sharp
and exhibits mild CA which was first noticed when the glasses were brand new, but no longer
noticed ... I just don't see it anymore because I'm so used to it. But the upside of the polycarbonate
is that it's shatterproof and blocks out 100% uv Rays. So I may still stick with polycarbonate if I get
transition/photochromic lenses. I'm used to them and like the extra protection.
 
GG, if you like polycarb because it is shatterproof and blocks UV, ask about Trivex lenses. Shatterproof, blocks UV, and less aberrations, "clearer" than poly. It does add a little to the price tag.
 
I just got rid of mine with my new pair of glasses. I thought they reduced the light I was able to see when using binoculars. I think that with birding and binoculars light is everything.

That's my main issue with transition lens, why haggle around about the brightest clearest "bestest" bins...when the lenses are canceling all attributes of quality optics ?, seems like a self-defeating venture to me.

I've worn glasses for many years, when I use my optics there is more than enough glass in front of my face ;)
 
GG, if you like polycarb because it is shatterproof and blocks UV, ask about Trivex lenses. Shatterproof, blocks UV, and less aberrations, "clearer" than poly. It does add a little to the price tag.

Thanks :) I just read up about it. I'll ask them during my appointment.
 
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That's my main issue with transition lens, why haggle around about the brightest clearest "bestest" bins...when the lenses are canceling all attributes of quality optics ?, seems like a self-defeating venture to me.

I've worn glasses for many years, when I use my optics there is more than enough glass in front of my face ;)

So you don't wear glasses when using binos? I have to wear mine unfortunately.
If I don't wear them then even the best binocular isn't quite sharp enough.
With my eyeglasses on I can see a lot more micro detail through the bins.
 
So you don't wear glasses when using binos? I have to wear mine unfortunately.
If I don't wear them then even the best binocular isn't quite sharp enough.
With my eyeglasses on I can see a lot more micro detail through the bins.

Thanks GG for bringing this topic up. I'm due for new glasses, too. I assume, like me, you have astigmatism which means going without glasses with binos is not an option.

I've only had one pair (in forty years?!?!) which darkened, and I didn't like them. But that was eons ago, so maybe they have improved? Good to hear some feedback from others on that. Thanks, Chosun, et al.

I use plastic, but I tried polycarbonate once and the CA drove me batty. After three weeks I took them back and said I couldn't live with it. Question: has the CA been improved with poly lenses like Trivex?? Is it worth another try?

Mark

PS: GG, I guess you've heard they're bringing Gilmore Girls back. :t:
 
Mark,
According to what I read online today, the Trivex lenses are sharper
than the poly and also have less CA. I don't know how available these lenses are,
but I'll ask during my appointment.

Yes! It's supposed to be a 4 movie revival on Netflix I believe...looking forward to that.

~ Beth
 
So you don't wear glasses when using binos? I have to wear mine unfortunately.
If I don't wear them then even the best binocular isn't quite sharp enough.
With my eyeglasses on I can see a lot more micro detail through the bins.

GG, sorry if I wasn't clear,,,,yes I always wear my glasses while viewing thru optics, I only take my glasses off for sleeping(ok, and the shower). I wear progressive lens, and have an astigmatism in both eyes...and Glaucoma, but my vision is excellent.

My point was:Why buy great binoculars for clarity and brightness, only to put a dark lens (transition lens) between you and the binocular ?..hope that makes sense o:D

FYI:
Polycarbonate vs. Trivex Lenses: A Quick Comparison

Here is a brief comparison of polycarbonate and Trivex lenses to help you decide which lenses might be best for you:

Thickness. Polycarbonate has a higher index of refraction than Trivex (1.58 vs. 1.53), so polycarbonate lenses are about 10 percent thinner than Trivex lenses.

Weight. Trivex has a lower specific gravity than polycarbonate, making Trivex lenses about 10 percent lighter than polycarbonate lenses.

Optical clarity (central). Trivex lenses have less internal stress and may produce sharper central vision than polycarbonate lenses.

Optical clarity (peripheral). Trivex lenses have a higher Abbe value and may produce sharper peripheral vision with less chromatic aberration than polycarbonate lenses.

Impact resistance. Polycarbonate and Trivex lenses have comparable impact resistance.

UV protection. Polycarbonate and Trivex lenses both block 100 percent of the sun's UV rays without the need for special UV-blocking lens coatings.

Availability. Polycarbonate lenses are available in a wider variety of lens designs (e.g., progressive lenses and other multifocals) than Trivex lenses.

Cost. The cost of polycarbonate and Trivex lenses can vary considerably, but many optical stores charge more for Trivex lenses than polycarbonate lenses.
 
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GG, sorry if I wasn't clear,,,,yes I always wear my glasses while viewing thru optics, I only take my glasses off for sleeping(ok, and the shower). I wear progressive lens, and have an astigmatism in both eyes...and Glaucoma, but my vision is excellent.

My point was:Why buy great binoculars for clarity and brightness, only to put a dark lens (transition lens) between you and the binocular ?..hope that makes sense o:D

got it. I'm glad your glaucoma is being controlled well. My Mom
had Glaucoma , but it was controlled ok with eye drops. I do worry about getting
it myself someday.

Yes, I see your point and it's more to think about. I appreciate your input.
 
I had a lot of issues using transition lenses when I was down in TX and any time I bird in open spaces, e.g. grasslands and shoreline. The shaded lenses definitely dimmed the view quite noticeably. I've since switched back to traditional lenses.

Justin
 
I had a lot of issues using transition lenses when I was down in TX and any time I bird in open spaces, e.g. grasslands and shoreline. The shaded lenses definitely dimmed the view quite noticeably. I've since switched back to traditional lenses.

Justin

Justin, (and others who have had issues with transition lenses),

Do you wear a wide brimmed hat when out in bright sunny conditions? It is pretty much de rigueur out here - exposed skin audibly crackles as it frys like bacon! - because of that, I'm pretty much moving around by seeking out shade anyway where possible. Besides, a big hat seems to help with keeping the maggies from attempting to have either your scalp, or your eyes out! :eek!:

Since my transitions are always in shade under the hat, they are moreorless clear (when new, and for the first few years that is), and if required, will totally clear in the ocular footprint. I've never really noticed any change in brightness when taking the glasses off - only a larger FOV due to ER constraints ..... I will have to pay closer attention to this to double check. :cat:

Anyway, for me, other alternatives are not an option, as I'm blind as a bat beyond about 2m, and I refuse to put something like contacts against my eyeballs, no matter what the advancements. Besides, as Ted says, only one pair of glasses is gloriously convenient! |=)|


Chosun :gh:
 
Well I had the eye exam today and decided against transition lenses.
One thing that helped me to decide is the fact that the lenses don't get
dark when driving. Car windows being tinted to some degree block enough
light to prevent the lenses from darkening. I'll stick with my polarized sunglasses.

I asked about Trivex lenses and the Dr. feels that the improvement over polycarbonate
is barely noticeable and not worth the extra money. So, I'll stick with the poly.

I do need a new prescription and discovered I have trace cataracts and am
quite young to have this, but the Dr said it probably won't interfere with my vision
or be noticeable until I'm much older...still it's not good news.

I asked about this anti-fog coating they offer. They've never had anyone request it
so they have to get back to me tomorrow with cost on that. I told them I experience fogging
(annoying!) when bird watching with bino pressed against the lenses.
I wonder how effective the anti-fog coating is...anyone know?

Also they asked if I wanted coating to minimize UV , but the polycarbonate blocks 100% UV Rays.
They didn't know this...or did they know and still try to sell it to me. I like to think the former, as they
have always been square with me in the past...and today talked me out of the more expensive
Trivex lenses.
 
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Justin, (and others who have had issues with transition lenses),

Do you wear a wide brimmed hat when out in bright sunny conditions? It is pretty much de rigueur out here -

Anyway, for me, other alternatives are not an option, as I'm blind as a bat beyond about 2m, and I refuse to put something like contacts against my eyeballs, no matter what the advancements. Besides, as Ted says, only one pair of glasses is gloriously convenient! |=)|


Chosun :gh:

I also wear a wide brimmed hat until it gets too cold out and I need my
warm ear flap hat. The wide brimmed hat is essential birding gear for me too :)

I feel the same way about contacts...I'm just too squeamish to press them on my eyes and take them off. I'll stick with old fashioned specs.
 
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