A few birds from Long Island (2 Viewers)

[Wiktoria]

Hi guys!
I'll be grateful if you help me with those birds

1 - I think this is an oriole but I don't know which. It looks like the Baltimore on the second picture http://www.birds-of-north-america.net/baltimore-oriole.html

2 - I'm almost sure but I'd like you to confirm - male Prairie Warbler?

3 - Certainly a Piping Plover but I'm not good at Calidris sandpipers (those one on photo are the first ones I've ever seen!) : Semipalmated and Least? I have more, better photos if you need them.

 

[Peter C.]

1)I would also say Baltimore - young/female type.
2)If the colour on the back is "true", looks good to be a male Prairie. (Congratulations! One of the harder-to-come-by breeding warblers in the east of N.A.)
3)The one on the left is a Semi-palmated - grayer, and you actually caught some webbing on the left foot. The one on the right is, I believe, a Least - much warmer back color, slighter bill, and I think I can see some yellow in the legs. (And congrats on the Plover too, I don't know their status in NY, but they're barely hanging on (an endangered species) in my part of Canada!).

Peter C.

 

[Reuven_M]

I don't know about the warbler, but i agree on Baltimore Oriole and Piping Plover/Semipalmated Sandpiper/Least Sandpiper

 

[Wiktoria]

Thank you both!

I don't know their status in NY, but they're barely hanging on (an endangered species) in my part of Canada!.

I was on several beaches and in at least three places I encountered signs "Piping Plover nesting area" (but only in one place I eventually spotted ones). I believe that their situation isn't so bad on this part of Atlantic coast.


No more opinions?

The webbing is visible and it means it must be either Semipalmated or Western but it would be great if it was possible to rule out a Western Sandpiper. The bill of my bird seems longer and more dropping than on those photos of SS that I can find on the Internet and I still have some doubts.

Unfortunately, I have no more better pics of oriole.

 

[Wiktoria]

I'm still confused Everybody has no idea ?

 

[catmadden]

Agree with Semi Palmated and Least Plovers, also the Baltimore Oriole looks right too. Don't know about the warbler. Your english is very good, and you're modesty is refreshing...

 

[DDolan1075]

Thanks for the picture. I saw a Prairie Warbler in Texas in April but it didn't have the red back. I will watch for that in the future.
As far as the Oriole, I have problems with females in terms of IDs. I guess that Baltimore is the safe bet there, here we have other options.

 

[Jim M.]

Wiktoria,

Peter has already given you the correct IDs, I believe. The first is certainly a female-type Baltimore Oriole -- too orange for Orchard and it also shows the typical brownish head and neck of Baltimore.

I think the only issue for debate is the Semipalmated/Western Sandpiper question. That can be a very difficult ID when there is no sign of the Western's breeding plumage. But I think the bill shape and length are within the range of variation for Semipalmated Sandpiper (and there is a lot of variation!). And Semipalmated is the default dark-legged peep in that area. So without anything conclusive pointing to Western, one would generally presume Semipalmated. (By the way, you did not mention when these photos were taken. I'm assuming they were taken recently.)

Best,
Jim

 

[Wiktoria]

Thank you all!

But I think the bill shape and length are within the range of variation for Semipalmated Sandpiper

This is what I wanted to hear ^^

By the way, you did not mention when these photos were taken. I'm assuming they were taken recently.

Oops I'm sorry! I forgot of it. The photos were taken on last Sunday.

[quote="DDolan1075]I saw a Prairie Warbler in Texas in April but it didn't have the red back[/quote]
Adult Prairie Warblers in my Sibley do have this trait. I believe it is more gaudy on males' backs. Maybe you saw a young bird?

 

[Easton56]

Hello try to look at this! Bird of the day

 

[Easton56]

Hello try to look at this! Bird of the day....

 

[Peter C.]

I think the only issue for debate is the Semipalmated/Western Sandpiper question. That can be a very difficult ID when there is no sign of the Western's breeding plumage. But I think the bill shape and length are within the range of variation for Semipalmated Sandpiper (and there is a lot of variation!). And Semipalmated is the default dark-legged peep in that area. So without anything conclusive pointing to Western, one would generally presume Semipalmated.
Best,
Jim

...this pretty much sums up what I was thinking. I don't have any particular evidence from these photos that this bird is NOT a Western, except that the bill length is not, in my opinion, long enough to exclude Semi-palmated. It is, as Jim notes, well within range of the latter; therefore, it only makes sense to go with the more common bird for the ID. "Identification by probability", in other words - not the most satisfying type of ID, I'll admit.

To give you some idea of how strong this probability is, I saw my second-ever Western Sandpiper, for Ontario, just this spring - and I've been birding here for 20 years. I've seen thousands of Semi-pals in that same period. (It had an enormous bill, by the way, looking almost like a miniature Dunlin. There were also a number of Semis nearby, with varying bill lengths, for quick comparison views.)

Cheers,
Peter C.

 

[Wiktoria]

...this pretty much sums up what I was thinking. I don't have any particular evidence from these photos that this bird is NOT a Western, except that the bill length is not, in my opinion, long enough to exclude Semi-palmated. It is, as Jim notes, well within range of the latter; therefore, it only makes sense to go with the more common bird for the ID. "Identification by probability", in other words - not the most satisfying type of ID, I'll admit.

To give you some idea of how strong this probability is, I saw my second-ever Western Sandpiper, for Ontario, just this spring - and I've been birding here for 20 years. I've seen thousands of Semi-pals in that same period. (It had an enormous bill, by the way, looking almost like a miniature Dunlin. There were also a number of Semis nearby, with varying bill lengths, for quick comparison views.)

Cheers,
Peter C.

I'm sorry I might have misunderstood what J. Moore wrote. Identification by possibility? So in this case I won't add the bird to my life list. But it was nice to see it anyway, doesn't matter whether it was Semis or Western.

Peter, I don't know if what you wrote cheered me up (20 years is like forever, in such a case I would be old when I see my first Western Sandpiper, especially taking into account the fact that my visits to North America are rather rare ) but thank you.

Thank you all, again. I can really count on you ^^

Regards,
Wiktoria

 

[apbarr]

makes me thankful to have seen one in ScotlandB B