2016 - World Yearlist Record Attempt (1 Viewer)

[Andy Adcock]

If you drop me a line, I might be able to take you to the site, Andy.

PS In my previous post I mentioned illegal trapping. I meant trapping in general, not illegal trapping of Eagle Owls. Passerines are the main victims.

That would be great Vincent, many thanks.

Andy

 

[Paul Chapman]

Egg collecting is however not really a problem in Holland. In NW Europe it's mainly a British past time, I'm afraid. Illegal trapping however is unfortunately a different matter.

Vincent

I can certainly recall reference to continental egg collectors being intercepted by customs and this link refers to German, Swedish & Norwegian egg collectors:-

http://www.rspb.org.uk/community/ou...ive/2014/01/31/a-thief-by-any-other-name.aspx

I can also recall British egg collectors caught with foreign eggs.

All the best

 

[Andy Adcock]

Vincent

I can certainly recall reference to continental egg collectors being intercepted by customs and this link refers to German, Swedish & Norwegian egg collectors:-

http://www.rspb.org.uk/community/ou...ive/2014/01/31/a-thief-by-any-other-name.aspx

I can also recall British egg collectors caught with foreign eggs.

All the best

I remember one guy in particular who had been caught in the UK with a couple of Eleonora's Falcons which he claimed were captive bred.

DNA testing proved they weren't captive bred (we have a substantail DNA database of all legally bred, captive BoP's) and they were also able to test soil samples found on his rock climbing gear and prove that he took the birds from from somewhere in the Balearics, Menorca?

Andy

 

[Paul Chapman]

Minor changes aside, this roughly is his schedule for Ethiopia:

6-Apr-16 Ethiopia Sululta Plain, Portuguese Bridge and Debre Libanos
7-Apr-16 Ethiopia Portuguese Bridge to Jemmu Valley
8-Apr-16 Ethiopia Jemmu Valley to Addis
9-Apr-16 Ethiopia Addis to Lake Awassa
10-Apr-16 Ethiopia Lake Awassa to Wondo Genet
11-Apr-16 Ethiopia Wondo Gent to Bale
12-Apr-16 Ethiopia Bale
13-Apr-16 Ethiopia Full day drive back to Addis and flight to Kenya

@ Daniel: no news from the 'insiders', but since Birding Abyssinia downgraded the accommodation to lower the costs (on Arjan's request), I wouldn't be surprised if we have to wait another week for the next update.

@ Paul: thanks for making that list for Spain! It saves me a lot of work ;-) Some of those birds will be very hard to find. His flights for the next three months are booked, so my guess is that he stays in Spain. Now that he's got more time there, he'll probably go to the Pyrenees.

Arjan has Bad wifi in Ethiopie so an up-date follows later on

Presumably Wednesday 13th looks like the day for an update? In which case presumably he'll have 5 days to update and about 125 additions?

http://world.observation.org/arjan.php

All the best

 

[JustinJansen]

2390 http://world.observation.org/arjan.php

 

[DanielDoer]

Presumably Wednesday 13th looks like the day for an update? In which case presumably he'll have 5 days to update and about 125 additions?

http://world.observation.org/arjan.php

All the best

He managed to see plus 115 species in 4,5 days! And among them 9 so far missing WP species (so Arjan more probably had an advantage in the time of the year in Africa than Noah!). I'm curious how many unique species Arjan added, Paul...

 

[dantheman]

Just had a look at Arjan's sightings and the the daily sightings bar at the right hand side ; http://world.observation.org/arjan.php

One particularly quiet period for Noah last year was from 15th Aug to 11th Sept - coincidently this happened to be part of his African leg.

217 species in 27 days from Uganda, Tanzania and the last 2 days of Kenya at an average of 8 species a day. That's a poor return for such a sustained period? As per the discussion on that thread ( http://www.birdforum.net/showthread.php?t=302548&page=12 ) quite probably down to repeats thin on the ground from the Kenya leg and inexperience in Africa (plus logistics?)

How does this compare to Arjan's strategy in the region? Guess only time and the results will tell but if he's going to get too bogged down too he'd almost be wanting to make that side trip to Norway/East Europe in the middle ... or even India/China again

 

[edenwatcher]

and some more from today - up to 2411.

Rob

 

[DanielDoer]

and some more from today - up to 2411.

Rob

Now +136 species in 5 days and among them 10 WP species - and tomorrow one last day in Ethiopia. Arjan really is keeping the pace high...

 

[Paul Chapman]

Stout Cisticola added retrospectively - not a 'unique' species:-

http://world.observation.org/user/view/84878?sp=76919&prov=0&from=2016-04-07&to=2016-04-12

All the best

 

[Martin Bell]

Whilst the birds are the primary focus, it would be interesting to compare both Noah's and Arjan's mammal lists

 

[Selsey Birder]

Possibly of more relevance in terms of additions, 263 added in the seven days spent so far in Ethiopia at a rate of over 37 birds per day. Now I realise this is a new continent and all the other caveats, but that is a fantastic return.

I do note quite a few birds on the list that I see regularly in South Africa (will be back there in two weeks time) so not sure how that will affect things later in the African visit. Probably very little as there are so many endemics and near endemics to see there.

Ian

 

[Paul Chapman]

He managed to see plus 115 species in 4,5 days! And among them 9 so far missing WP species (so Arjan more probably had an advantage in the time of the year in Africa than Noah!). I'm curious how many unique species Arjan added, Paul...

25 'unique' species from the additions:-

Arabian Bustard Ardeotis arabs
African Long-eared Owl Asio abyssinicus
Grey-headed Batis Batis orientalis
Ankober Serin Carduelis ankoberensis
Sombre Chat Cercomela dubia
Abdim's Stork Ciconia abdimii
Shining Sunbird Cinnyris habessinicus
Thick-billed Raven Corvus crassirostris
Somali Crow Corvus edithae
Black Cuckoo Cuculus clamosus
Black-cheeked Waxbill Estrilda erythronotos
Chestnut-naped Francolin Francolinus castaneicollis
Moorland Francolin Francolinus psilolaemus
Abyssinian Ground-Thrush Geokichla piaggiae
Nile Valley Sunbird Hedydipna metallica
Somali Fiscal Lanius somalicus
Abyssinian Longclaw Macronyx flavicollis
Gillett's Lark Mirafra gilletti
Pied Wheatear Oenanthe pleschanka
Abyssinian Catbird Parophasma galinieri
Rouget's Rail Rougetius rougetii
Yellow-throated Serin Serinus flavigula
Yellow-breasted Barbet Trachyphonus margaritatus
Spot-breasted Lapwing Vanellus melanocephalus
Long-tailed Paradise-Whydah Vidua interjecta

All the best

 

[Paul Chapman]

458 'unique' species against 390 recorded by Noah in Asia so Arjan is 68 ahead on that basis.

Arjan's other additions were seen by Noah in:-
Argentina - 1
Brazil - 1
Cameroon - 4
China - 1
Ghana - 26
Iceland - 1
Kenya - 37
Norway - 2
South Africa - 28
Tanzania - 3
Turkey - 4
UAE - 2
Uganda - 2

Arjan is yet to see the following number of species that Noah added from the following WP countries:-
Iceland - 10 species
Norway - 16 species
Turkey - 31 species
Spain - 31 species
France - 1 species
Total - 89 species

I get a 2,396 adjusted total against 1,975 as at 12th April by Noah so Arjan is 421 ahead on that basis. Is it all over?

Noah added the following species in Africa yet to be seen by Arjan:-
Ghana - 227 species
Cameroon - 83 species
South Africa & Lesotho - 257 species
Madagascar - 76 species
Kenya - 103 species
Tanzania - 67 species
Uganda - 121 species
Total - 934 species

All the best

 

[Paul Chapman]

Possibly of more relevance in terms of additions, 263 added in the seven days spent so far in Ethiopia at a rate of over 37 birds per day. Now I realise this is a new continent and all the other caveats, but that is a fantastic return.

Ian

Ian

Noah's first destination in Africa was Ghana where in 8 days he saw 318 species of which 295 were additions at a rate of 37 per day.........

All the best

 

[Selsey Birder]

Ian

Noah's first destination in Africa was Ghana where in 8 days he saw 318 species of which 295 were additions at a rate of 37 per day.........

All the best

Paul,

Perfect symmetry !!!

Thanks for the information.

Ian

 

[DanielDoer]

Noah's first destination in Africa was Ghana where in 8 days he saw 318 species of which 295 were additions at a rate of 37 per day.........

Now that is a really interesting comparison. But I think that Ghana hasn't as much in common with Spain or other previously visited sites by Noah than Ethiopia has in common with Israel and UAE! So I would suppose that Arjan is far in front now (you should keep in mind that he will visit Ghana at the end of his African leg whereas Noah didn't go to Ethiopia)...

 

[Paul Chapman]

Now that is a really interesting comparison. But I think that Ghana hasn't as much in common with Spain or other previously visited sites by Noah than Ethiopia has in common with Israel and UAE! So I would suppose that Arjan is far in front now (you should keep in mind that he will visit Ghana at the end of his African leg whereas Noah didn't go to Ethiopia)...

Daniel

Arjan is undoubtedly ahead. But I think mainly in the speed that he has seen the species rather than the species seen for the geographic areas covered. I am surprised that he has only seen 55 'unique' species in Ethiopia so far. Moving day tomorrow and then 16 days in Kenya compared to Noah's 10 days.

All the best

 

[DanielDoer]

I get a 2,396 adjusted total against 1,975 as at 12th April by Noah so Arjan is 421 ahead on that basis. Is it all over?

You can really have the impression that Arjan has already won the race! But we have to wait at least to the middle of the year to get a clearer picture. When he finishes in Spain we have the opportunity to compare 3 great legs:

2 where Arjan planned with "braveness for the gap":
Western Palaearctic and Australasia

And the African leg that is much more comparable according time spent and countries visited between Noah and Arjan.

If he hasn't a great netto gap in the first two and is ahead in Africa he will certainly add more species in more time in South America!!!

Very well done so far Arjan!

 

[DanielDoer]

Daniel

Arjan is undoubtedly ahead. But I think mainly in the speed that he has seen the species rather than the species seen for the geographic areas covered.

That is exactly what I wanted to say in my very last post (posted simultaneously by the way), just that I used much more complicated sentences for it ...

We will see clearer after the African leg, where I would like to predict more unique species by Arjan although Noah visited more countries altogether!