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What are the best Advanced ID Guides, CDs, etc. for No.Am. birds? (1 Viewer)

Jim M.

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Hello all,

I thought it would be useful to collect in one thread recommendations for the best books, CDs, or any other type of media that people have found especially useful for increasing their identification skills for North American birds beyond what is provided in standard guides, such as The Sibley Guide to the Birds, the National Geographic Field Guide to Birds of North America, etc. (I looked for other threads addressing this topic, but found none in the forum archives). I think there are two main categories: Works that address advanced identification skills for North American birds in general, and those that specialize in particular groups of hard to identify birds, e.g. gulls, shorebirds, raptors, and sparrows. Ideally, these should be works that provide a significant amount of information not in standard guides, but also do not provide so much information that it becomes difficult to find the truly useful stuff.

Some that I am already aware of are:

-- Advanced Birding by Kenn Kaufman. This is in the Peterson Field Guides series and was written in 1990. I think it is a neat and useful little volume that discusses 35 groups of North American birds that provide various types of identification challenges. The only problem for me is that it seems somewhat oriented towards Western birds.

-- Pete Dunne's Essential Field Guide Companion. This book provides a lengthy textual description for each North American bird (the idea is to use it in conjunction with the pictures in a standard field guide). I was just given this, and it looks quite useful, especially in terms of providing a lot of behavioral and habitat details for individual species.

-- Birding by Ear. A CD-ROM in the Peterson Field Guides series. I have only just started this, and perhaps it is not necessarily advanced, but it does use non-standard techniques for helping you to increase your recognition skills for bird songs.

I would be interested in hearing others' recommendations. I noticed the Peterson Field Guide series also has some books dedicated to particular groups of birds, such as raptors and gulls. I wonder how useful these are and whether others have found them worth purchasing.

Jim
 
What a coincidence, I'm working on such a list for my website.
The three you mentioned are very good. The Pete Dunne guide especially is indispensible.
Here are a couple more general ones:

-- Birding in the American West: A Handbook, by Kevin J. Zimmer - In brief, while this guide focuses on western birds, it is still very useful to anyone birding in the US and Canada. It has a section on difficult-to-ID birds that is very similar to the Kaufman Advanced guide. My full review has more details.

-- Identify Yourself: The 50 Most Common Birding Identification Challenges, by Bill Thompson III and Julie Zickefoose - I would qualify this as more "intermediate" than advanced ID. It does not tackle the very hard groups (gulls, empids, etc) in any detail, but does a good job on the groups that it does cover.

-- National Geographic Complete Birds of North America, by Jonathan Alderfer - This is like the NatGeo field guide on steroids. It uses the illustrations from the 4th edition of the field guide (unfortunately), but also includes much more text focused on identification.
 
Thanks for the response Grant—and the link to your website. I am surprised that there have not been more responses to my initial post, but it looks as though your website alone will give me at least the beginning of an answer to virtually all of my questions! (Though further responses are of course welcome and appreciated). I have just added a link to your site to my list of saved bookmarks.

Cheers,
Jim
 
Thanks Jim.
I've probably got others that would also qualify, and definitely some family-specific guides. I'll reply with some more titles as I'm able to.
 
Thanks Jim.
I've probably got others that would also qualify, and definitely some family-specific guides. I'll reply with some more titles as I'm able to.

Thanks. (Just to clarify though, when I said in my previous post "further replies are welcome" I was not trying to squeeze still more info from you but was just saying I was also interested in hearing more from other posters). I am finding the reviews on your website quite useful, and I think it is especially useful to have the same reviewer review multiple books so he can compare and contrast.

But by the way, if you are debating what to review next for your website, I want to put in a vote for:

Peterson Reference Guides: Gulls of the Americas, by Jon Dunn, Steve N.G. Howell

Given the high cost, limited availability, and depth of detail provided by the Olson and Larsson gull book, this looks like the primary gull book most American birders are going to be considering.

Best,
Jim
 
No worries Jim, I didn't think you were pushing me.
It would be nice to get some other opinions on this topic.

I do have the Peterson guide to Gulls, and am planning on reviewing it. Honestly, though, gulls and even gull books intimidate me! :) My initial assesment is that it's not quite as good as the Olson and Larsson Princeton guide, but due to the reasons you mentioned it is definitely recommended.
 
Jim,
I've found these two books to be helpful:

* Raptors of Eastern North America: The Wheeler Guide
* Brian K. Wheeler, Foreword by Clayton M. White, John M. Economidy
* Paperback
* ISBN-13: 9780691134765


* Hawks from Every Angle: How to Identify Raptors In Flight
* Jerry Liguori, Foreword by David A. Sibley
* Paperback
* ISBN-13: 9780691118253
 
I would like to recommend The Shorebird Guide by Richard Crossley, Kevin Karlson, and Michael O'Brien. I really like this book and it is a bargain at $16.50 on Amazon.
The hawk guides mentioned above are really good as well.
 
Another vote for The Shorebird Guide.

Also, Peterson's 'A Field Guide to Warblers of North America' By Jon Dunn and Kimball Garrett

and Peterson's Hummingbirds of N. America (Sherri Williamson)

No one has mentioned videos yet and there are some good ones. Three from Peregrine Video that I like are:
The Large Gulls of North America
The Small Gulls of North America
Hummingbirds of North America

You might also check out this thread on the same subject for more ideas.

And then there are some fantastic web sites, including our very own.

I look forward to seeing the final list - I'm sure it will be of interest to a number of us.
 
As a practicing American, I concur with all the books mentioned. I have no opinion on the DVDs, as I don't own them.
 
Thanks for all the suggestions. So far I have purchased four additional books:

The Shorebird Guide, by O'Brien et al.
Sparrows of the United States and Canada (The Photographic Guide), by Beadle & Rising
Wheeler's Raptors of Eastern North America
Gulls of the Americas by Howell & Dunn

I was quite pleased and surprised at how inexpensive all these were. I am putting my impressions thus far below.

I agree as others have said that the Shorebird Guide is quite good, and takes a novel approach in terms of using photographic scaling and composition to assist in developing your identification skills. However, I had two quibbles about the book. First, the book lacks a unitary discussion of how to identify each species. The identification discussion for each shorebird is spread out over the photographic captions, and these can extend for 10 pages or so. (For example, structural clues regarding identifying a blackbellied plover, and the discussion of the black axillaries field mark are separated by several pages). Thus you cannot use the book to get a quick summary on how to identify a particular shorebird. The advantage of their approach is that they can discuss identification in conjunction with particular photos and particular plumages, but it would also be nice to have a quick summary paragraph. Another thing I do not like is the inclusion of quiz photos within the primary identification section. (You have to look at the back to see the answers). I personally do not want to be quizzed at the same time I am trying to figure out how to identify a bird. I can get quizzes on BirdForum, using my Thayer birding software, and by birding itself, which is in essence a continuous quiz.

I think the gull book is also quite good. It has a wealth of beautiful photos showing each gull in the various plumages, and detailed text with descriptions of how to distinguish similar species. Unlike the shorebird book, it includes useful information in the captions to the photos, but also has a summary description describing how to identify the bird and distinguish it from similar species.

The sparrow book seems useful, though I often wish it had more photos. But sparrows of course are not as easy to photograph as shorebirds or gulls.

The Wheeler book I am still getting used to. It seems the least user-friendly of the four. I suppose this is partly because it is intended not only as an identification guide, but also as a more sophisticated reference for raptor enthusiasts. The photos are nice and the captions useful, but the text seems dense and not terribly accessible. There is a lot of discussion devoted to description of the various geographic subspecies, so it is sometimes hard to see the forest for the trees. The layout of the book also crowds all the text on the page (at least in the paperback edition which I have).

Just my impressions so far,
Jim
 
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........Another thing I do not like is the inclusion of quiz photos within the primary identification section. ... I personally do not want to be quizzed at the same time I am trying to figure out how to identify a bird. I can get quizzes on BirdForum, using my Thayer birding software, and by birding itself, which is in essence a continuous quiz.

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Jim

I would assume the book is not meant as a ready to use FG. It is more for learning your species at home. That's why info is spread out and why there are quiz pictures. But this would not exclude the benefits of a summary of ID features.
 
Jim,

In addition to many of those mentioned, I've found ...

Lives of North American Birds, by Kenn Kaufman, and
Hawks, Perterson Field Guide, by Clark and Wheeler

to be very useful and positive additions to the library.

There's also a 3 volume "Birds of North America" by the Audubon Society that may still be available that is wonderfully detailed and comprehensive.

Cheers,
Robert
 
Great thread Jim - I am saving this as a reference. If it hasn't been mentioned - I submit " petersons Warblers Dunn/Garret " recommended to me by non other then our Chris Benesh. A great feature of this guide is 2 pages dedicated to the under-tail patterns that would make a great laminated field guide in its self if I could ever schlep my butt over to Kinko's some day.:t:
 
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