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The stongest Talons? (2 Viewers)
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Vipers
Brunswick Birder
I'm with Hanno it has to be Harpy or Phillipine Eagle. If this link works just look at those feet.
http://www.birdforum.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=21736
http://www.birdforum.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=21736
Grampy Bustard
Well-known member
I don't know which has the hardest grip, but when you have had Great Grey Shrike and Little Owl sink their talons into your stomach while handling them, it ain't funny.
Ringing a Sparrowhawk was one of the scariest things I have ever attempted, but I lived to tell the tale.
Ringing a Sparrowhawk was one of the scariest things I have ever attempted, but I lived to tell the tale.
Strandman
Well-known member
jurek said:
That's not quite as surprising as it sounds- Steller's are huge but I don't think they tackle prey of a matching size and their feet don't match up to their monster bill- which I think is principally designed for display when they are establishing dominance on wintering grounds.
myself
being nuts on raptors
I think you're quite right mentioning harpy eagle because as far as I know it's one of the largest raptors, if not even the largest, and it has got the longest talons
I hope I'm informed correctly, else please correct me for I always want to learn news concerning birds
I hope I'm informed correctly, else please correct me for I always want to learn news concerning birds
Stuart Watson
Well-known member
Martial said:
I was also gonna mention Martial Eagle, also - any votes for Eagle Owl??
Motmot
Eduardo Amengual
Harpys kill adult Howler and Spider Monkies, up to 8 kg,the biggest in the Americas, and they have to kill them in seconds, crushing the skulls before the very strong monkey can defend himself. I´ve seen them in captivity in Panama, very close views of those female monstrous talons... They can´t be beaten!
alcedo.atthis
Well-known member
"Anyone know the crush rate of the Bird with the strongest talons?"
Depends on which concept you are looking at. Eagles can loose their prey due to the structure of their talons. Ospreys can rotate one of their front toes (one each foot) so that fish prey cannot escape, unlike Eagles with fish prey.
It all depends on differing circumstances.
Regards
Malky
Just for further info about birds feet :-
http://people.eku.edu/ritchisong/birdfeet.html
Depends on which concept you are looking at. Eagles can loose their prey due to the structure of their talons. Ospreys can rotate one of their front toes (one each foot) so that fish prey cannot escape, unlike Eagles with fish prey.
It all depends on differing circumstances.
Regards
Malky
Just for further info about birds feet :-
http://people.eku.edu/ritchisong/birdfeet.html
alcedo.atthis
Well-known member
"According to the Canadian raptor conservancy the great horned owl is the most powerful bird of prey pound for pound. IM SHOCKED none of you even suggested it since a lot of you seem to know so much"
Why be shocked. As I said before, it depends on the context in which the information is supplied and used.
"A Great Horned Owl may take prey 2 to 3 times heavier than itself."
It does not state that the G/H Owl actually can fly off with this prey, carrying this weight.
The wild animal known to have been killed and carried away by a bird was a 15 pound male red howler monkey killed by a Harpy Eagle (Harpia harpyja) in Manu National Park, Peru in 1990. The Harpy Eagle is considered the world’s most powerful bird of prey, although it weighs only 20 pounds.
The consensus for the worlds strongest bird of prey is the Harpy, due to the fact that the above incident was witnessed. I have seen Ospreys killing fish 3 times + their weight, but the birds can do nothing with them except drag them to the shore. Then they are set about by every other bird there, due to their natural status. The Osprey killed the fish, but that was it. I have recovered Sea Trout killed by Ospreys on the Ythan, just to weigh them for comparative studies. (Ate them, the Sea Trout, that is, afterwards) As someone on this forum stated before to one of our younger members, the same data can be manipulated to form several opinions.
Regards
Malky
Why be shocked. As I said before, it depends on the context in which the information is supplied and used.
"A Great Horned Owl may take prey 2 to 3 times heavier than itself."
It does not state that the G/H Owl actually can fly off with this prey, carrying this weight.
The wild animal known to have been killed and carried away by a bird was a 15 pound male red howler monkey killed by a Harpy Eagle (Harpia harpyja) in Manu National Park, Peru in 1990. The Harpy Eagle is considered the world’s most powerful bird of prey, although it weighs only 20 pounds.
The consensus for the worlds strongest bird of prey is the Harpy, due to the fact that the above incident was witnessed. I have seen Ospreys killing fish 3 times + their weight, but the birds can do nothing with them except drag them to the shore. Then they are set about by every other bird there, due to their natural status. The Osprey killed the fish, but that was it. I have recovered Sea Trout killed by Ospreys on the Ythan, just to weigh them for comparative studies. (Ate them, the Sea Trout, that is, afterwards) As someone on this forum stated before to one of our younger members, the same data can be manipulated to form several opinions.
Regards
Malky