Steiner Discovery 8x44 XP (1 Viewer)

[Sancho]

These binos are, I think, called Peregrine in the U.S. Do any BF members use them? SteveC did a comparison of Promaster and some Alpha bins on another thread, and rated these open-bridge Steiners very highly. Any other opinions from folk who use them in the field? Thanks in advance.

 

[OwenM]

Just to avoid any confusion-they are "XP" here, too. The regular Peregrine is a less expensive model without the same features, HD glass, or open bridge design. It has 42mm objectives(and there's a 8.5x50), and narrower FOV.
Peregrine here:
http://www.steiner-binoculars.com/binoculars/trophy/trophy.html
Peregrine XP here:
http://www.steiner-binoculars.com/binoculars/peregrinexp/peregrinexp.html

 

[ThoLa]

These binos are, I think, called Peregrine in the U.S. Do any BF members use them? SteveC did a comparison of Promaster and some Alpha bins on another thread, and rated these open-bridge Steiners very highly. Any other opinions from folk who use them in the field? Thanks in advance.

Hi Sancho!
They seem to be identical to the Nighthunter XP. 2 identical instruments from the same company going by two different names to aim at two different groups of users?
Maybe you can check out hunters' forums, too; they might have info.

Tom

PS: Are THEY available?

 

[Sancho]

PS: Are THEY available?

Thanks Tom. Curiously in these Days of Uncertainty, they are actually available....an important Unique Selling Point in a top-end ED binocular!
Another curious feature is the insane variation in quoted prices...from 655 sterling to 1,400 euro, and up to 1300 dollars on some US websites! The reviews I´ve been able to find are very, very favourable, with quite a few people preferring them to Leissovskis. And remember, they´re made in Germany.....Yourp needs all the business it can get!

 

[Steve C]

Sancho,

I just tried Steiner on the phone here. The lady professed no knowledge of a Discovery XD. She also maintained the Nighthunters are an individual focus Porro Prism binocular in 10 and 12x56, which is what the Steiner website shows. A google search however turns up the Discovery XD and a Nighthunter XP in what looks to be the same binocular as the Peregrine XP. So, no help here I guess. The Nighthunter porros advertise special coatings to enhance the image in low light. So it looks like the Discovery and Nighthunter roofs might be unique to Europe. My guess, and it is just that, is that the Discovery XD= Peregrine XP and that the Nighthunter roof XP has different coatings in what is likely the same basic optical design.

 

[Sancho]

Steve, you are an Optics Superhero. Thanks for the research and the time. I reckon Steiner should commission you!B

 

[ThoLa]

...in these Days of Uncertainty, they are actually available....

Are they ?
What an odd company, isn't it?
Germans ...!

But the EDGes and the SwarovisionELs are much better suited for watching the Yeti, the Ivory-billed woodpecker, aliens from outer space, icelandic trolls, .... and other sorts of phantoms, of course.

And remember, they´re made in Germany.....

Are they ?
I didn't know. But the prices (some 1500 E) suggest it might be so. And of course it is very hard to find them anywhere in this country. We are world-leaders in export after all ...

At the risk of repeating myself: you'll need one of each!

Tom

 

[Sancho]

But the EDGes and the SwarovisionELs are much better suited for watching the Yeti, the Ivory-billed woodpecker, aliens from outer space, icelandic trolls, .... and other sorts of phantoms, of course. ;

I bet Steiners are better for observing Leprechauns at the end of my garden. They have a "Leprechaun-y" look to them, no?

 

[ThoLa]

I bet Steiners are better for observing Leprechauns at the end of my garden. They have a "Leprechaun-y" look to them, no?

Sancho,
I am at a loss here. I didn't complete my cryptozoology course

But the Steiners, as acutal devices, can only be used to see actual things, of course.
Phantoms can only be seen with phantom binoculars.

Maybe we'll have a flashy new, sinfully expensive web-video from Austria soon:
"After our factory's messie,
win a free trip to Scotland and see Nessie*"

*free pair of not yet existing NewELs provided.

Feeling somewhat unreal today,
(Phan)Tom

 

[iporali]

Steiner's "ordinary" Peregrines (non-XD) belong to those very few high-end binoculars that I personally couldn't learn to like.
First: they had extremely short close focus distance, but almost no infinity focus override for myopic eyes.
Second: focusing wheel rotates in the opposite direction to most others (ie. counter-clockwise from close to far).

Maybe the XPs are better, but as always and if possible, try before you buy. :t:

Best regards,

Ilkka

 

[Sancho]

Steiner's "ordinary" Peregrines (non-XD) belong to those very few high-end binoculars that I personally couldn't learn to like.
First: they had extremely short close focus distance, but almost no infinity focus override for myopic eyes.
Second: focusing wheel rotates in the opposite direction to most others (ie. counter-clockwise from close to far).

Maybe the XPs are better, but as always and if possible, try before you buy. :t:

Best regards,

Ilkka

Thanks Ilkka. Can´t find anywhere in Ireland that stocks them, so I can´t try them. But that goes for all good bins, except for L/S/Z.