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Silvereye subspecies Melbourne (1 Viewer)

Tiraya

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I don't know that these photos are so unusual than the usual southern Silvereyes.
Back mid Blue grey
Chestnut to Cinnamon brown flanks
Undertailcoverts white
What do you think makes them unusual?
 
My guess is it's the Southern Vic/Tasmanian race of Silvereye,Zosterops lateralis lateralis. The race most familiar to most people in E. Australia is Z. lat. familiaris, which typically doesn't have such richly colored flanks.
 
I should have kept track of this forum.

The "normal" birds do not have these richly-coloured flanks. I will upload another picture of the normal ones.
 
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As all the above people who kindly replied to your query said, the Tasmanian form of the Silvereye has these rich chestnut flanks which you noticed. The Silvereye (all forms) is Zosterops lateralis. The Tasmanian subspecies you are asking about is Zosterops lateralis lateralis. According to my guide, they migrate as far north as Caloundra, Queensland in the autumn (and they might be resident in Melbourne for all I know). There are several other subspecies which lack this chestnut colour.

I am replying to this thread because I have been to Australia recently, and people there were helpful to me, as people here at Bird Forum have been helpful to me in identifying problem birds when I got back (and in the past about other birds). But before asking the question, I identified the birds I could from a field guide - I identified about 115 out of 128, asked a bird park host in Australia about the remainder, and asked about the most difficult few here.

The three people who took the trouble to reply to your query all gave the correct answer: this is the normal form in a certain area of Australia; and they told you what form it is, the race or subspecies 'lateralis'.

In the case of this common bird, the field guide I bought, the 'Slater Field Guide to Australian Birds', gives a clear description and clear pictures of the silvereye, even though the book is not so good (being compact) on birds which are more difficult to identify. I (politely) suggest that you get a guide such as this if you become really interested in birds. It will make looking around much more fun.

My experience of this forum has been that people who are extraordinarily expert on birds are willing to help people who are more or less beginners (such as me recently on my first trip to Australia). They are also happy to repeatedly answer the same question about common birds from any number of people. This site is one of the ones that makes you say, 'This is what the Internet is for'. Sometimes people make an educated guess at an identification, and are wrong. But, if three people here give you the same answer, then I think you should believe them unless you have done some serious research so you have reason to think they are wrong.
 
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To MacNara,

I have several field guides with me at present, but none detail the subspecies; an area of birds that I am interesting to venture into.

I did not at any point mean to suggest that what these other people were wrong in there statements. I cannot point their mistakes as I am not an expert either, and if I did at any point, apologize right now.

With the second post I was replying to Greg McKay (I probably should have mentioned that), and not to the other users.

Now, since I have found this forum, I can label the normal birds as familiaris and the migrating birds (as a general rule) as lateralis.

For that, thank you all.
 
Well, I'm glad you sorted it out! As I said, I visited Australia recently (Queensland area around Cairns) and had a wonderful time with friendly and generous people, as well as great beauty.

Our local Japan version of the Silvereye is called the White-eye (the eye-ring is really white). It's a lovely bird, and very common where I am. This year a pair have been nesting in a tree two metres from our living room window (this is crowded Japan, the whole garden is only 3m x 6m). The chicks had pilot training a few days ago and are now gone. The whole thing took only about three weeks. We're feeling quite lonely, as we enjoyed watching the whole thing.

Regards.
 
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