Pied, or a White Wagtail? (1 Viewer)

[Daz001]

Hello all, On the house. Is this a White or a strange looking Pied Wagtail.....? (I'm lazy and just look a pic of the camera viewfinder so slightly blurred)

 

[Alexander Stöhr]

Hello,

I can understand that you presumable want/need a fast ID of a possible scarce bird (I learned here that White Wagtail is regular in some parts of the UK).

But I think, the original pictures are needed for confident ID here:

• please add location. No its not biasing in this rare case, I hope.
• the relevant rump area seems visible and true black. But it is yet-black, I think only judgeable on the originals,
• same with the exact shade of the upperparts. It may be well fit both White and Pied Wagtail,
• such a yellow shade to the face with a lemon touch is not very common in a White Wagtail. But yes, it (scarcely) exists and doesnt exclude a White Wagtail. But slightly better for a Pied? Err yes???

I hope this doesnt come out as an offense. But I hope its clear that the originals are needed (and why I am biased towards a Pied Wagtail, presuming its somewhere in the UK)

 

[Daz001]

Hello,

I can understand that you presumable want/need a fast ID of a possible scarce bird (I learned here that White Wagtail is regular in some parts of the UK).

But I think, the original pictures are needed for confident ID here:

• please add location. No its not biasing in this rare case, I hope.
• the relevant rump area seems visible and true black. But it is yet-black, I think only judgeable on the originals,
• same with the exact shade of the upperparts. It may be well fit both White and Pied Wagtail,
• such a yellow shade to the face with a lemon touch is not very common in a White Wagtail. But yes, it (scarcely) exists and doesnt exclude a White Wagtail. But slightly better for a Pied? Err yes???

I hope this doesnt come out as an offense. But I hope its clear that the originals are needed (and why I am biased towards a Pied Wagtail, presuming its somewhere in the UK)

I can upload the original photos! I will do it soon. The location is Northamptonshire, UK. Sorry, I should have said. Pied Wagtails are very common, see them on the house lots, so I'm leaning towards a Pied, even though it maybe looks like a White.

 

[pianoman]

Yellowish face implies a juvenile, which will complicate the ID. But even so, I think I see enough difference between the dark crown and the lighter mantle to hazard White. Far from certain though

 

[Daz001]

Yellowish face implies a juvenile, which will complicate the ID. But even so, I think I see enough difference between the dark crown and the lighter mantle to hazard White. Far from certain though

Thanks for the info about the Yellow, I noticed that, I thought it might be a young Bird. Interesting info.