not my record: Swan Goose near Wuhan, Hubei Province, China | january 2025 | domestic or genuine? (1 Viewer)

[HouseCrow]

I am beginning to think that I may very well be over cautious (zealous more like) on this subject. I am used to peer-dismissing various knobbed, long-billed swan geese-type birds in Japan on inaturalist. Of course many 'swan geese' there are in fact domestic type Chinese Geese.
Yet I suppose full adult male Swan Goose can have some form of knob on the bill.
In that case, what would you make of this group? Swan or Domestic Chinese Goose (or some back hybrid)..

edit: is the brownish cheek also a typical feature for wild Swan Geese? Or...what other features determine Swan Goose vs Chinese Goose?
A long neck and long slender bill as determining features seem to be useful, but are they accurate?

Domestic Swan Goose (Variety Anser cygnoides domesticus)

Domestic Swan Goose from ä¸å½æ¹åçæ¦æ±å¸ä¸è¥¿æ¹åº on January 1, 2025 at 01:49 PM by observe-syz

www.inaturalist.org

@THE_FERN*: I can't find how to search only for 'wild ' Swan Goose on ebird...I am no doubt missing an option.

Hope to read from you
cheers
Gerben

*including you here as you responded to Mac_Nara's thread on Swan Geese in Kashmir from 2020.

 

[THE_FERN]

I am beginning to think that I may very well be over cautious (zealous more like) on this subject. I am used to peer-dismissing various knobbed, long-billed swan geese-type birds in Japan on inaturalist. Of course many 'swan geese' there are in fact domestic type Chinese Geese.
Yet I suppose full adult male Swan Goose can have some form of knob on the bill.
In that case, what would you make of this group? Swan or Domestic Chinese Goose (or some back hybrid)..

edit: is the brownish cheek also a typical feature for wild Swan Geese? Or...what other features determine Swan Goose vs Chinese Goose?
A long neck and long slender bill as determining features seem to be useful, but are they accurate?

Domestic Swan Goose (Variety Anser cygnoides domesticus)

Domestic Swan Goose from ä¸å½æ¹åçæ¦æ±å¸ä¸è¥¿æ¹åº on January 1, 2025 at 01:49 PM by observe-syz

www.inaturalist.org

@THE_FERN*: I can't find how to search only for 'wild ' Swan Goose on ebird...I am no doubt missing an option.

Hope to read from you
cheers
Gerben

*including you here as you responded to Mac_Nara's thread on Swan Geese in Kashmir from 2020.

Domestic only

https://ebird.org/species/swagoo2?siteLanguage=en_GB

Both {yellow is feral, introduced, domestic)

https://ebird.org/species/swagoo1

As I noted previously these 2 will be intertwined. However, in principle the headline photos for each will be indicative, correctly identified