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Nikon Venturer/Premier difference? (1 Viewer)

Morti55

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I am waiting the arrival of a pair of Nikon bins. The original owner was unsure if they are the Venturer or the Premier 8x32. I have researched for a few hours and am more confused now than when I started. He stated that they are about 7-8 years old. He was not able to give me a model #. Are there any distinguishing characteristics that would help me to ascertain the model? I am pretty sure they are USA so they would be the LX suffix, not the HG, correct?
Thank in advance for your help, All the Best,Marty
 
Hi Marty,

Welcome to Bird Forum.:hi:

Assuming they are coming to you from the USA; if they are like mine they will probably come in a Nikon box that says on the top of it PREMIER LX with HGL/DCF on the side of the box and the binocular will have LX L on it. So don't be surprised at anything.

Since the inception of the EDG they have been known as Premier and that is how you will find them listed on Nikon's USA 2013 website. The compact 8x20 and 10x25 binoculars are known as LX L Premier.

http://www.nikonsportoptics.com/en/Nikon-Products/Binoculars/7534/Premier-8X32.html

The 10x32 version is discontinued.

I believe that the HG designation meant High Grade. The DCF means "Roof Prism, Center Focus." The "D" is short for "Dach," the German word for Roof. The LX was used for Binoculars sold in the USA. I think Venturer was the old name for them and I would guess that the Venturers have the old Lead Glass in them and some people think that is a good thing. Brock knows the history of these pretty well.

Bob
 
I am waiting the arrival of a pair of Nikon bins. The original owner was unsure if they are the Venturer or the Premier 8x32. I have researched for a few hours and am more confused now than when I started. He stated that they are about 7-8 years old. He was not able to give me a model #. Are there any distinguishing characteristics that would help me to ascertain the model? I am pretty sure they are USA so they would be the LX suffix, not the HG, correct?
Thank in advance for your help, All the Best,Marty

Marty:

Welcome to the Birdforum. The original Nikon LX was introduced in
1998 and was updated in 2005 to the LX L model, and more recently
the Premier, which is the same as the LXL.

They are both highly regarded and I have had examples of both.
If you have the LX L, it will have an L on the badge near the size,
and that is the easiest way to distinguish. There were some changes
between models from leaded to ECO, lead free glass, and the LXL models were a bit lighter in weight, and
in the 32mm size the change was slight.

There are some older posts here on Birdforum, so you can go back to
and search when these were discussed fully, check the Nikon subforum.
Another great place to see reviews is the "Better View Desired" site,
where they have more for you to see.
These are a very nice binocular so I hope you enjoy yours.

Jerry
 
Marty,

Jerry mentioned weight. There was a considerable difference in weight between the full sized LXs and the LXL (with "L" standing for "lightweight"). At almost 36 oz., the original Venturers were quite heavy for their configurations. My shoulders were sore after a day in the field.

However, in the 8x and 10x32 versions, there's just under an ounce difference. So in that regard, you won't notice a difference, and ergonomically they are identical, regardless which one you receive.

Three things that are different between the original Venturers and the LXL (now called "Premier" in the US, HGL everywhere else) are:

1. The armor on the "L" is softer. Nice to the touch, but it more easily scuffs.

2. As Jerry mentioned, the "L" contains lead-free glass vs. lead glass in the Venturer. I thought this was a big deal, but it's probably less important than the coatings....

3. The anti-reflection coatings are different. To my eyes, the Venturers show colors that are more true to life whereas the "L" skews the colors warmer. Reds appear a bit orangy and blues a bit purplish.

In this configuration, I like the originals better. In the full sized, I could live with the colors being warmer for the benefit of significantly less weight. But alas, the full sized units have very little pincushion distortion so the image "rolls" for me ("rolling ball"). There's a touch of this with the 8x32, too, but not enough to be bothersome. Only one member reported "rolling ball" being a bother to him with the 8x32 model. Made him nauseous.

It's probably not the "Premier" if it's that old, which has a black box with stripes on it. The LX had a gold box with the letters HG on it (High Grade, as Bob mentioned) and the LXLs had a blue slip case that the box fit into just to be extra classy and justify the higher price (though some of the later production LX's also had the blue slip case).

I didn't find the ergonomics of the mid-sized model comfortable for my large hands, but that's a personal thing, you might find it fits your hands perfectly. The twist-up eyecups are soft and tend to show wear after a while, but they have a metal frame underneath the rubber, something not found even in some binoculars costing much more (although my Vixen 7x50 Foresta has that set-up also, and it's not an expensive bin like the LX/LXL).

There is one feature that you will either really like or really hate, and that's the turning speed of the focuser, which goes from close focus to infinity in less than HALF A TURN! That's faaaaaaast! Twice as fast as the full sized models, and 1 turn, they are already fast, or at least they were when they first came out, now a lot of companies make fast focusers, which are not to my liking. I found it difficult not to overshoot my targets even though the focuser on my second sample had sufficient dampening and turned smoothly unlike my first sample, which had a loose focuser and some backlash.

The colors and contrast are among the best I've seen in binoculars, particularly in the original series.

In both samples, I found some astigmatism at the top of the field but the horizontal axis was sharp edge to edge. The full sized models don't have this astigmatism.

So like most roofs, it has its quirks, and I've named the ones I found, however, image-wise, it's hard to beat. You'd have to move up to the much more expensive EDG to beat it in a roof.

Let us know how you like the LX/LXL?

Brock
 
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Binocular Urban Legend:

Only two people in the world have a comprehensive knowledge of Nikon binoculars, the models, variations and marketing names used in different territories.

One of these people lives in Japan and the other in the USA.

They disagree about almost everything. :-O

Lee
 
Brock

It was supposed to illustrate that nobody has a grip on Nikon bins models and nomenclature and use a little humour to do it.

Seems the humour was even smaller than I thought......

Bah Humbug!

Lee
 
Hey Marty!

Throughout all this we forgot to tell you it is a really great binocular!:t:

Let us know what you think of it.

Bob
 
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