New Zealand Wrens (1 Viewer)

[StevePreddy]

Hi.

Is anyone aware of any of any published studies on the (internal) phylogeny of the Acanthisittidae? I'm particularly interested in genetic distances between / dates of divergence for the two extant taxa.

Thanks

Steve

 

[Richard Klim]

A couple of related threads...

• Acanthisittidae
• New Zealand Rockwren

Perhaps also worth checking the references in NZ Birds Online species accounts.

 

[l_raty]

The complete genome of Acanthisitta has been sequenced, but there is apparently very little from Xenicus. GenBank has only microsat and Toll-like receptor sequences; distances can be computed rather easily based on these (via a BLAST search, using the Xenicus sequences, on the Acanthisitta scaffolds), but would probably not be straightforward to interpret...

 

[StevePreddy]

Thanks guys. There's an interesting project here then for someone with access to Rock Wren specimens.

 

[Peter Kovalik]

Kieren J. Mitchell, Jamie R. Wood, Bastien Llamas, Patricia A. McLenachan, Olga Kardailsky, R. Paul Scofield, Trevor H. Worthy, Alan Cooper. Ancient mitochondrial genomes clarify the evolutionary history of New Zealand’s enigmatic acanthisittid wrens. Molecular Phylogenetics and Evolution. In Press, Accepted Manuscript, Available online 31 May 2016.

[abstract]

 

[l_raty]

Kieren J. Mitchell, Jamie R. Wood, Bastien Llamas, Patricia A. McLenachan, Olga Kardailsky, R. Paul Scofield, Trevor H. Worthy, Alan Cooper. Ancient mitochondrial genomes clarify the evolutionary history of New Zealand’s enigmatic acanthisittid wrens. Molecular Phylogenetics and Evolution. In Press, Accepted Manuscript, Available online 31 May 2016.

[abstract]

Oops - I posted it in the [Bird Paleontology subforum] too.
Anyway, it may be worthwhile to have a link to the other thread here.

(It might be interesting to see where the rather shallow rockwren-Pachyplichas divergence that is found here [Fig.1] falls in comparison to the divergence between the two main rockwren haplogroups identified by Weston 2014 [pdf] (see Fig.3.3, p.35)... [Northern vs. southern rockwrens in Weston 2014 was one third of rockwren vs. rifleman; rockwren vs. Pachyplichas here seems to be proportionately less...?])

 

[Peter Kovalik]

Kieren J. Mitchell, Jamie R. Wood, Bastien Llamas, Patricia A. McLenachan, Olga Kardailsky, R. Paul Scofield, Trevor H. Worthy, Alan Cooper. Ancient mitochondrial genomes clarify the evolutionary history of New Zealand’s enigmatic acanthisittid wrens. Molecular Phylogenetics and Evolution. In Press, Accepted Manuscript, Available online 31 May 2016.

[abstract]

IOC Version 6.3 (Draft) Taxonomic Updates:
Move Lyall’s (Stephens Island) Wren from Xenicus to Traversia.

Lyall’s Wren is basal to the other members of Acanthisittidae. Mitchell et al. 2016, Gill et al. 2010.

 

[Jim LeNomenclatoriste]

Kieren J. Mitchell, Jamie R. Wood, Bastien Llamas, Patricia A. McLenachan, Olga Kardailsky, R. Paul Scofield, Trevor H. Worthy, Alan Cooper. Ancient mitochondrial genomes clarify the evolutionary history of New Zealand’s enigmatic acanthisittid wrens. Molecular Phylogenetics and Evolution. In Press, Accepted Manuscript, Available online 31 May 2016.

[abstract]

Traversia lyalli forms a very ancient lineage (early Oligocene, 30mya ~). Relict species within Acanthisittidae or distinct family, Traversiidae ? 🤔