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Thayeri

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Nat Geo Complete Birds of North America (the new Companion)

Hello, I just wanted to say that I've had the new "National Geographic Complete Birds of North America" for about a week now, and I've been thoroughly enjoying it. It is our 26th birding related book, and this one has a unique and valuable niche.

The book is quite large and and thick and is crammed with fine print text as well as over 4,000 illustrations. The average species entry is most of a large page of small print, and is anywhere from 300 to 1,000+ words (average about 500), with the emphasis on identification. This compares to maybe an average of 100 words per species in my (2nd edition) Nat Geo field guide, and more like 50-60 in Sibley (though the way he uses words pointing to paintings are worth many more). There are also multiple paintings per species (most of which are identical to the ones in the NG field guides), photos for each group, special sidebars on ID issues, migration maps as well as range maps, etc.

The book is not a field guide, but a large stay at home companion to field guides. It has more detail than any of my general purpose field guides, though less than my specialized reference works for raptors, gulls, warblers, etc. It covers 962 species, and where I really like it, is for the 800+ species for which I don't have specialized references. It has more information on general identification, similar species problems, subspecies and migration for birds like herons, ducks, flycatchers, owls, swallows, orioles, finches and so forth than any other book I have.

I find that I am using it is a companion, but to Sibley rather than the National Geographic guide, and they are quite a 1-2 combination! If I didn't have the specialized books, I would find the particularly lengthy treatments of gulls and raptors and so forth to be quite valuable as well.
 
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I was pleasantly surprised by this book. I was expecting it to be a coffee table volume full of nice pictures. The illustration quality is "variable" but the text has more of a HBI feel (Handbook of Bird Identification) and is very useful.
The best bit is it is very very cheap!!!

Amazon.co.uk have it at the moment for £13.19 or second hand for £6.00!!!!!!

ISBN 0792241754

Darrell
 
Darrell Clegg said:
The best bit is it is very very cheap!!!

Amazon.co.uk have it at the moment for £13.19 or second hand for £6.00!!!!!!

ISBN 0792241754

Darrell

That's amazing value, it retails for $35 (20 Pounds) over here.

I agree it is an excellent reference book and like the fact that it deals in detail with subspecies. The only criticism I have is that the binding means it won't stay open while you read it.
 
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can your book stay open?

Thayeri said:
Hello, I just wanted to say that I've had the new "National Geographic Complete Birds of North America" for about a week now, and I've been thoroughly enjoying it. It is our 26th birding related book, and this one has a unique and valuable niche.

The book is quite large and and thick and is crammed with fine print text as well as over 4,000 illustrations. The average species entry is most of a large page of small print, and is anywhere from 300 to 1,000+ words (average about 500), with the emphasis on identification. This compares to maybe an average of 100 words per species in my (2nd edition) Nat Geo field guide, and more like 50-60 in Sibley (though the way he uses words pointing to paintings are worth many more). There are also multiple paintings per species (most of which are identical to the ones in the NG field guides), photos for each group, special sidebars on ID issues, migration maps as well as range maps, etc.

The book is not a field guide, but a large stay at home companion to field guides. It has more detail than any of my general purpose field guides, though less than my specialized reference works for raptors, gulls, warblers, etc. It covers 962 species, and where I really like it, is for the 800+ species for which I don't have specialized references. It has more information on general identification, similar species problems, subspecies and migration for birds like herons, ducks, flycatchers, owls, swallows, orioles, finches and so forth than any other book I have.

I find that I am using it is a companion, but to Sibley rather than the National Geographic guide, and they are quite a 1-2 combination! If I didn't have the specialized books, I would find the particularly lengthy treatments of gulls and raptors and so forth to be quite valuable as well.


It is a great but but it has a major flaw. It takes all our strength to keep the page open. In January we complained to NG and we were told that a replacement would be sent. After numerous emails we still wait for a copy. They were to do a second printing to rectify the situation and send us a new copy but we are still waiting. Do you have this problem with your book. No matter at what page the book does not open properly.
 
Not noticeably, but not all books I have stay open that well.

By the way, I did get the Dunne book as well. It needs to be used with a field guide. A bit clumsy as well, to go back and forth between two books.
 
Tero said:
A skinnier ID help book is the Kaufman written Advanced Birding in the Peterson series.

Hi Tero

I've recently bought a copy of Advanced Birding cheap on ebay, but its waiting for me in England so i won't be able to get hold of it till july. I'm fairly sure its this guide anyway (Tern on the cover). I would be interested to know what you think of it - Recommended or not ?

Dave
 
Well, I used it to try to figure out flycatchers. I had to get CDs for the song, though. Shore birds it was pretty useful for as well*. I like the handling of the birds in groups in the Kaufman-Peterson book.

*Kaufman and the NG have similar explanations for the two Dowitchers, for example.
 
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