Juvenile Female Blackbird? London UK (1 Viewer)

[ChrisKten]

A nice easy one for all of you.|=)|

I was having a problem recognising juvenile Blackbirds, well, what I thought was juvenile was in fact adult. So just to see if I've improved, is this a juvenile female?

Taken through the window, so a bit blurred I'm afraid, but I think clear enough.

 

[Cristian Mihai]

Hi ChrisKten,

Your bird looks like a juv Blackbird. I don't think that I'm able to say something about the bird's sex.

 

[ChrisKten]

Hi ChrisKten,

Your bird looks like a juv Blackbird. I don't think that I'm able to say something about the bird's sex.

Thanks Cristian, looks like I'm learning.|=)|

I said female as the tail seemed the same colour rather than darker. Although looking again, it's hard to tell because of the angle.

 

[gradders52]

A nice easy one for all of you.|=)|

I was having a problem recognising juvenile Blackbirds, well, what I thought was juvenile was in fact adult. So just to see if I've improved, is this a juvenile female?

Taken through the window, so a bit blurred I'm afraid, but I think clear enough.

Hi
I'll be back, but this is a juvenile... parents (adult blackbird) have yellow tips to bills. Mums on the right, just little 'un has mouth ajar waiting to be fed, but see your pics, no yellow beak. And yes female.. I'll try and illustrate later.
Cheers
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[gradders52]

A nice easy one for all of you.|=)|

I was having a problem recognising juvenile Blackbirds, well, what I thought was juvenile was in fact adult. So just to see if I've improved, is this a juvenile female?

Taken through the window, so a bit blurred I'm afraid, but I think clear enough.

Been trying to sort masen. We've had three broods so far this year. Normally 1 juvenile turns up with parent (often male). Two days later, another, and perhaps two days after that a third. Only ever seen 3 juveniles together... but 1 may have 'flown' while a 4th turns up... if you get my drift. i.e 1,2,3 then 4, but only 2,3 left? Colouration between 1 and 3 quite noticeable different. Clearly a developing (egg laying delay etc).
Female blackbird.
Juvenile female
Male and male juvenile

See next message.
Cheers
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[gradders52]

A nice easy one for all of you.|=)|

I was having a problem recognising juvenile Blackbirds, well, what I thought was juvenile was in fact adult. So just to see if I've improved, is this a juvenile female?

Taken through the window, so a bit blurred I'm afraid, but I think clear enough.

Now all the ones I'd seen, 7 to date all looked the same 'brown colouration' so I assumed different sexes with similar plumage... appears I may be wrong. One day, 2 juveniles with distinct differences (see pics, not great as like you photo through a window). Howver, no doubt one much darker than the other... a male. Therefore all t'others must be female. Which gives a breeding ration of 1 male o 6 females! Interesting! (well to me!). Compare the 'male' on it's own to your/other images.
Cheers
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[gradders52]

Now all the ones I'd seen, 7 to date all looked the same 'brown colouration' so I assumed different sexes with similar plumage... appears I may be wrong. One day, 2 juveniles with distinct differences (see pics, not great as like you photo through a window). Howver, no doubt one much darker than the other... a male. Therefore all t'others must be female. Which gives a breeding ration of 1 male o 6 females! Interesting! (well to me!). Compare the 'male' on it's own to your/other images.
Cheers
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Wrong button!
Now files are too big... grrr
Sorry about that

 

[ChrisKten]

Thanks for your posts.

I knew about the yellow tip, but I seem to see them with muddy beaks, which makes the yellow hard to see (and I think it's why I kept confusing juvenile and adult).|=)|


I've looked back at some old pictures taken with a video camera (bad quality). I've attached one from last year, and one from the year before. I think they confirm what you are saying.

The first picture is a juv male, the second a juv female.

 

[gradders52]

A nice easy one for all of you.|=)|

I was having a problem recognising juvenile Blackbirds, well, what I thought was juvenile was in fact adult. So just to see if I've improved, is this a juvenile female?

Taken through the window, so a bit blurred I'm afraid, but I think clear enough.

and fnally

Part ! Adult female with juvenile female.
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