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Impressed with Nikon Monarch 5 8X42 (1 Viewer)

tomander

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I am newly retired and wanting to purchase a new binocular in the $300+/- price range. My 20+ year old Minolta 7X42s are too heavy and need retirement too. Last Saturday, I was visiting a son in Kansas City and stopped into a Cabelas.

My intension was to test the Leupold Mojave 8X32 and the Nikon Monarch 7 8X30. The Mojave seemed good, not heavy and certainly a good possibility. They were out of stock in the 8X30 Monarchs 7s. When I mentioned I wanted a lighter weight binocular, the clerk handed me a Nikon Monarch 5 8x42. I instantly took a liking to it, the way it felt in my hands and viewed. I then tried the Monarch 7 8X42 and while it is a better bio, I still liked the Monarch 5 8X42s feel. I know that shows my old eyes must be bad liking the lower quality bino, but it was the ergonomics I think that was doing it.

Are there other binoculars in the $300 range I should consider? I am really new at this and would appreciate any suggestions.

Thanks
Tom
 
It's a good one, maybe a Bushnell legend ultra and a Zeiss Terra. I'm sure there are others. The Sightron bluesky II 8X32 has a very very loyal following and they are just under the $200 mark
 
Hello Tom,

These : http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/706629-USA/Vanguard_ENDEAVOR_ED_8545_Endeavor_ED_8545_8_5x45.html or the 8x42s would do the job admirably and with better eye-piece covers than the Nikon.

I've owned the Nikon Monarch 5 8x42 and liked it alot, despite the clumsy eye-piece covers. It's bright, with good clear high contrast colour definition, nice and light, certainly very easy to handle, the grip is good and the new rubber objective lens covers are a very good tight fit, both around the barrel and on the objective, nice quality rubber too.

There's certainly a lot of choice around $300, and look luck with whatever you decide.

Enjoy the Summer !
 
I have the Monarch 5 8x42 and I love them. They have made some compromises of course (a bit tight field of view) but the image is sharp and the contrast is great.

As an advantage compared to the Monarch 7 pointed out on a Youtube review by a Japanese hunter, the Monarch 5 has a higher percentage of usable field of view than the Monarch 7, so the wider field of view of the 7 is not that useful.

Anyway, as Samandag has pointed out, that 300 $/€ area is probably the most competitive market, so make sure to test several models before you buy. You might find out that some of the compromises I consider acceptble are a big no-no for you, and, conversely, my no-nos are largely irrelevant to you! ;)
 
Recently, Monarch 7s were going for about $300, so it made the market
for Monarch 5s iffy. However, I see now the prices on M7s are zipping up.
Other binoc deals have been drying up too.
Maybe the start of summer in the Northern Hemisphere is a tricky time for deals.

I was impressed with the Monarch 5s at a shop a year ago...they are good.
 
tomander:

I've had an old Nikon Monarch ATB 8x42 for over fives years and while the eyecups are a bit of a pain and the "accessories" on the old Monarchs were junk, it was and still is a great binocular. It has never given me any functional problems, the hinge, focus mechanism and the optics train all continue to work perfectly today. It's image is very, very good; a bit on the warm side due to its silver coated prisms (which I love). Certainly not the sharpest or the brightest of binoculars, but it is so good, I could see no point in "upgrading" to an 8x42 Vortex Viper as the "upgrade" was so very, very slight for $500! I know what Viper quality is as I owned an 8x32. Additionally, my old 8x42's light weight and perfect focusing make it absolutely the best handling full size (42) binocular that I've ever encountered.

Recently, back in March, I purchased a Nikon Monarch 5 10x42, it was on sale on Amazon, Murphy Camera was the Amazon third party merchant. The price was $327, less the $50 Nikon Instant Rebate that was also available for the 8x42. Thus I paid $277 for the 10x42, which included shipping. I have not really fully run it out yet, but my early findings are that it is excellent! The printed specs that came with the bin state its weight is 21.2 oz which is actually lighter than my old 8x42 (21.5 oz). The new 10x42 barrel diameter is very slightly larger then that on my old 8x42, possibly due to slightly thicker armor; however due to its light weight it too could be used with a one hand hold, providing you can hold it steady. That's always been a problem with me and 10x binoculars; consequently I have to hold it with two hands and there is still a little bit of shake. Presently, even with some shake I can still use these binoculars to good effect. My new 5 10x42 has eye relief (ER) of 18.4 mm which is perfect for my eyeglasses. I can not understand how Nikon was able to increase the ER of the old ATB 10x42 from 15 mm to 18.4 without changing the overall length of the binocular which remains at 5.7"? But they did! If my old ATB 8x42 is an A+ in handling, then the new 5 10x42 is an A in handling.

The image is superb, both brighter and sharper then the old 8x with the same excellent contrast, yielding excellent resolution. It's hard to believe that this image could be this good. I've always been suspicious of ED glass claims, but in the Monarch 5's case it appears to work? Prior to purchase, my greatest concern was that the dielectric coatings on the 5 would yield slightly washed out colors as I've seen on other inexpensive binoculars. That is not the case, the colors are excellent, fully saturated and true; although slightly cooler then my old ATB's colors. The FOV is 288', which will cause many birdforum spec warriors to coke and gag, but its perfectly acceptable to me as the sweet spot is a widish 80%. I was not overly impressed with the 7's that I've seen, with the exception of my Sightron Sii 8x32, I do not like binoculars with small sweet spots.

So far, this Monarch 5 10x42 has impressed me greatly in all respects except for the eyecups and the accessories which although they have been improved are still not yet where they should be. The eyecups have shallow twist notches that are very, very slightly better than the old continuous twist eyecups. The new strap is not bad, but not as good as the Viper neck conture strap. The new case is padded; who cares? You can not use a binocular that is in a case. The new objective lense covers are far more complex then need be. They snap into the inside of the barrel armor. Maybe these will continue to work in the long term, maybe not? They certainly take longer to snap into position then generic objective lens covers. The rain guard is the same stiff plastic as before with very slightly longer lens covers; they still bounce off while walking in the rain. Monarchs have never been binoculars to purchase for the accessories.

The big news is the image - it is superbly bright with excellent contrast, resolution and colors. According to the review that I read the new 5 8x42 is supposed to be even better then the 5 10x42. If I were you I would look around and see if I could find a Merchant that still offered the $50 Nikon Instant Rebate. I may even purchase a 5 8x42 as an actual, viable (financially as well as optically) upgrade of my old, much beloved ATB 8x42 Monarch? However, even if I could not find the rebate, I would still purchase them as you are likely to get more than $50 of use out of them before a rebate reappears. The only alternative that I know of - would be to spend $1,000 on the Zeiss Conquest HD 8x42 which is certainly an outstanding optical instrument, but it is in a heavy, bulky package that delivers an outstanding image with terrible handling. Good luck!

bearclawthedonut
 
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According to the review that I read the new 5 8x42 is supposed to be even better then the 5 10x42.

In the 10x I've auditioned I've noticed ... 10x is often not so sharp. Seems to be a bit of a challenge.
Many ancient 10x models are great, though ... odd. I'm guessing it might be the lens grinding.
Or, the demand to keep the chassis short is pushing the oculars into tough territory.
 
I read a long time ago that 10x lenses need to be ground to a higher level of quality then 8x as greater magnification also magnifies faults/irregularities in the lenses? I do not know if that is accurate as the same lens system can be used to produce both 8x and 10x images. Of course fixed focal length lens systems have a general reputation for higher quality images then zoom systems. I do know that when I lived in the Tempe, AZ I could see further into a dust storm with lower magnification then higher.

One of my favorite binocular images was that of the old (pre-HD) Vortex Viper 10x42. But I could not hold that 10x steady enough to enjoy its image. I was never impressed by the old Viper 8x42, nor by the new HD version. Perhaps some optic systems are better suited to 8x and others to 10x? Perhaps its all in the quality control? I don't read any negative reviews of Zeiss Victory 10x's. Perhaps the differences are mainly in the viewers eyes?
 
It's true the shake affects the resolution. A 10x also has just 64% of the light of 8x, though.
That doesn't matter much except at dusk...or in noisy views (like a dust storm).
More light is more information for your cortex to process., to see through noise.

By itself, I wouldn't think that 10x would necessarily increase the effect of defects.
However, I suspect that when you attempt to keep the instrument length the same,
you move closer to natural distortion limits. The big 10x50s and old 10x30s I have
are very sharp, and newer shorter 10x42s are a little soft. There were these cheap
pre-focused 10x42s I thought would be junk but they were really sharp (but with other
issues). They were 2 inches longer than the other 10x42s, though.
So what you said could be true...if they try to keep the barrel short and torture the
ocular for the power.

So I have a theory that shortness costs you a lot to get things right in a 10x and is a
much easier goal at 8x. More length makes it easier to attain sharpness.

If you can't hold a 10x steady enough, as a last thing try holding with hands
way up front (after focusing). That gives me extra steadiness.

I got some short 10x25s...they are a little soft, but I get a kick out of
the extra detail on little birds. I can tolerate a little softness. One thing
it does is wipe out chromatics. Makes it easy viewing when you
track a flying bird across a bright cloud deck.
 
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