Heterophasia desgodinsi (Oustalet, 1877) (1 Viewer)

[Taphrospilus]

Heterophasia desgodinsi (Oustalet, 1877) OD here

Dans l'espèce qui a été envoyée par M. Desgodins et qui...

Tetraophasis Desgodinsi Oustalet, 1886 OD here

C'est dans ces même collections, formées à Yer-Ka-lo par M. Desgodins que se trouvait le type de la Sibia Desgodinsi que J'ai décrite, en collaboration avec M. l'abbé David, das le....

The Eponym Dictionary of Birds

Black-headed Sibia Heterophasia desgodinsi Oustalet, 1877
Abbé Auguste Desgodins (1826–1913) was a French missionary in Tibet (1855–1870). He created a dictionary, Dictionnaire Thibétain-Latin-Français (1899), as well as writing up the mission with his brother Charles H. Desgodins in La Mission du Thibet de 1855 à 1870 (1872). Other taxa, particularly insects, are named after him.

The Key to Scientific Names

Abbé Auguste Desgodins (1826-1913) French missionary to Tibet (Heterophasia, syn. Tetraophasis szechenyii).

Birth record here p. 104/355 (indeed only one name Auguste).

This is what Wikipedia claims here.

I ask myself:
1) Why is the potential brother Charles H. Desgodins (if exists) excluded as potential honoree?
2) From second description shouldn't be brother David be considered as co-author of Heterophasia desgodinsi? Or is this not allowed by the code if it was not mentioned in OD?

The brother was Charles Hyacinthe Desgodins (1814-1894) here. Maybe the answer to 1) is that he wasn't an abbé?

 

[l_raty]

As I understand it, Charles Hyacinthe was a forest inspector in France. In the early 1870s (while he was already retired), he wrote up La Mission du Thibet de 1855 à 1870, based on letters and notes from his brother. He did not take part in the mission.

The naming and the writing of the Latin diagnosis of Sibia desgodinsi are both explicitly attributed to "M. David et [...] moi" in the OD, hence it would make sense to attribute the name to David & Oustalet, indeed.

 

[Björn Bergenholtz]

Nothing major, simply for completeness sake ...

Re. the first-mentioned Black-headed (alt. Black-hooded) Sibia Heterophasia desgodinsi OUSTALET (& Davíd) 1877 (OD in post #1, as "Sibia Desgodinsi"), also note the end part of the OD:

...; nous nous réservons du reste de donner une description plus détaillée de cette espèce intéressante dans notre Catalogue des oiseaux de la Chine qui est sous presse et va paraître incessamment.

... which I assume is a reference to Les oiseaux de la Chine (in two volumes), by Armand David & Émile Oustalet ; "avec un atlas de 124 planches, dessinées et lithographiées", (Paris, 1877) here, where we find "Sibia Desgodinsi" in the Appendix; here. Even if nothing was/is added regarding the dedicatee himself. Neither was "his" Bird depicted in the Atlas (here).

However, BnF (Bibliothèque nationale de France) has him as:

Auguste Desgodins (1826-1913)​

[...]

Naissance: Manheulle (Meuse) 16-10-1826

Mort: Pedong, Indie, 13-03-1913

Note. Missionnaire. - Explora les chaînes méridionales de l'Himalaya pour joindre le Tibet, éffectua plusieurs missions dans le Tibet de 1869 à 1876

[here, incl. a Photo! (alt. here, or here)]​

A somewhat younger verion of the same Prêtre is to be seen here:

MISSIONS​

Country :

India​

Mission area :

Tibet​

1856 - 1894 (Darjeeling [Sikkim])​

1899 - 1913 (Darjeeling [Sikkim])​

​

Country :​

​

China

Mission area :​

​

Hong Kong​

​

1894 - 1899 (Hong Kong)​

Hopefully of some use/help?

Either way, enjoy!

/B

 

[Taphrospilus]

Sorry I have to come back with an question. How can we be sure that that Les oiseaux de la Chine / par M. l'abbé Armand David,... et M. E. Oustalet,... ; avec un atlas de 124 planches, dessinées et lithographiées, par M. Arnoul et coloriées au pinceau | Gallica wasn't published before ser.7:t.1-2 (1876-1878) - Bulletin de la Société philomathique de Paris - Biodiversity Heritage Library ?

I found Bibliographie de la France, ou Journal général de l'imprimerie et de la librairie in Bibliographie de la France, ou Journal général de l'imprimerie et de la librairie but no help to find the date of publication. The other seems to be published 23 juin 1877 in Bulletin de la Société philomathique de Paris according Les oiseaux de la Chine

 

[l_raty]

I found Bibliographie de la France, ou Journal général de l'imprimerie et de la librairie in Bibliographie de la France, ou Journal général de l'imprimerie et de la librairie but no help to find the date of publication.

The book is #11450, listed p. 659, on 1 Dec 1877 : Bibliographie de la France, ou Journal général de l'imprimerie et de la librairie

The other seems to be published 23 juin 1877 in Bulletin de la Société philomathique de Paris according Les oiseaux de la Chine

"23 juin 1877" is the date of the meeting where the paper was read, not the date of publication of this paper. I don't know how the Bulletin de la Société Philomathique was published. (In fact, I see nothing in this volume that suggests it was not published all at once. Should it be the case, the publication could not have occurred before 11 Aug 1877 -- the date of the last meeting reported in the volume.)

 

[l_raty]

"23 juin 1877" is the date of the meeting where the paper was read, not the date of publication of this paper. I don't know how the Bulletin de la Société Philomathique was published. (In fact, I see nothing in this volume that suggests it was not published all at once. Should it be the case, the publication could not have occurred before 11 Aug 1877 -- the date of the last meeting reported in the volume.)

Actually, there are 8 wrappers bound at the end of the 2-volume book (ser. 7, vol. 1 + vol. 2), which all tell us "Le Bulletin paraît par livraisons trimestrielles".
As the 4 wrappers of vol. 1 are all dated "1877" (and the 4 wrappers of vol. 2 are all dated "1878"), I guess (?) it might make sense, in the absence of contradictory evidence, to date the issues to the last day of the four trimesters of a year, i.e., 31 Mar, 30 Jun, 30 Sep and 31 Dec...
This paper is listed in the table of contents of the third livraison of vol. 1.

 

[Taphrospilus]

So is this part somewhere online (at least I did not find it in ser.8:t.1-2 (1888-1890) - Bulletin de la Société philomathique de Paris - Biodiversity Heritage Library )

Table générale par noms d'auteurs des articles contenus dans les cinquième , sixième et septième séries des Bulletins 1836 à 1888. vi , 55 pp . 8 ° . Paris , 1890 . Bound with : Bull . Soc . philomat . de Par . , 1889-90

 

[l_raty]

1890 [Index] - Table générale par noms d'auteurs des articles contenus dans les cinquième, sixième & septième séries des Bulletins, 1836 à 1888 - Biodiversity Heritage Library

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[Taphrospilus]

Was v.60-61 (1947-1948) - Proceedings of the Biological Society of Washington - Biodiversity Heritage Library the first time the bird was placed in Heterophasia as Heterophasia capistrata desgodinsi ? Why he placed it in Heterophasia capistrata seems to me a miracle. And when did Heterophasia desgodinsi get a species rank?
OK in...

Cheng T.H. (1947) Checklist of Chinese birds. The Transactions of the Science Society of China, 9:40–84

...on p. 65 we can find the name also in the list as Heterophasia melanoleuca desgodinsi.