Goshawk or Buzzard? (audio) UK. (1 Viewer)

[Joe.S]

A female Goshawk having a punch-up mid-air with a Buzzard.

Both calls sound like a Goshawk? The second call is hard to hear because I was walking at the time.

 

[AllanM]

Buzzard

 

[Nutcracker]

Ditto to Buzzard; Gos is quite different:
http://www.xeno-canto.org/309597
http://www.xeno-canto.org/282488

 

[Joe.S]

It's a shame this recording on xeno hasn't been nailed down because the structure is very similar to the second part of the call above:

http://www.xeno-canto.org/129861

A 'gek-gek' call from a Goshawk requires a degree of composure (?) and I can't imagine it would give this call while it's engaged mid-air with a Buzzard?

The audio below is the two calls side-by-side for comparison (my recording and the call from xeno).

 

[Biancone]

To my slightly ageing ears your recording sounds very like Goshawk calls. The first two distinct calls anyway. I'm referring to the 'wee-oo' shrieking vocalisations, quite different from the kek-kek-kek alarm call of Goshawk on the xeno-canto links.
Brian

 

[Joe.S]

There are a few more Goshawk calls with a similar structure on xeno:

http://www.xeno-canto.org/320251
http://www.xeno-canto.org/252278

There are more than this, that are similar, and the majority are called 'juvenile calls'. Perhaps an adult Goshawk will revert back to its 'juvenile call' when it's under attack or stressed out.

 

[lou salomon]

could well be a goshawk. apart from the "gek-gek' call (which i associate with teritorial vocalization during breeding time) goshawk does have the mewing call but it is heard more rarely. your original sound does not sound like a buzzard to me.

 

[Biancone]

The "juvenile calls" you give links to in post #6 are the calls that young make, often in the context of food-begging, before and for a few weeks after fledging. Adults make broadly similar calls, but deeper and stronger especially in the female, around courtship, and in various social and territorial situations. To me, your recording sounds very much like a couple of these 'wailing' calls made by an agitated adult Goshawk.
Brian

 

[Joe.S]

Thanks everyone for your help.

I've convinced myself it's a Goshawk though I will be a bit tentative in my notes.

I've bookmarked your blog Brian.