Film / Birdsong. Sweden > Nedre Daläven (Autumn) (1 Viewer)

[ashy_b]

Hello.

(First post).

Help with very particular bird song / song-scape please.

Cultural background: There's a big debate (in the bird world) going on in Swedish film sound re incorrect birdsong in film and TV production. I sort of agree.

Project: I'm in post production on a (short/independent) film that's filmed and set outside Gysinge in the Nedre Daläven region, Sweden. It is late October. It is pre-sunrise to about 11am. It is a mix of fine with sun and heavy rain. There is no snow. The film is set on both a bridge over the river (probably no bird sound due to no seeing any birds and the noise of the water) and in the thick forest with mix of old growth deciduous and coniferous.

My question to the experts is: what birds are we likely to hear? Perhaps a top 10 or 20 list.

My bonus question is: Do any of these birds we may hear culturally or biologically signify anything to do with death, re-birth or heightened senses of awareness as it would be amazing to link a bird sound to the narrative.

I have a list of 205 birds. Clearly I can't go through the all. That would take me days. Even though I'm tempted. So any help would be tremendous.

For any really very helpful suggestions and advice I can give a thanks to credit if desired.

Hopefully this is of interest to someone! Thanks for reading and considering.

Ash.

 

[foresttwitcher]

Here is a link to the ebird bar chart for species reported in Gysinge in October: https://ebird.org/barchart?r=L2935249

Not much help I know but it narrows down the number of species a bit.

Note that most birds will not produce song at that time of year but the bird sounds will mostly be calls. You can listen to the calls (and song) of selected birds on xenocanto.

 

[TheBlackGrouse]

Know what you mean, a scene at night, an open heath field somewhere in Western Europe and then a Tawny Owl... just because of the sound. No trees around of course.

There are interesting calls for your location but listening to Xeno-Canto gives no idea about the context. You really need an experienced birder who knows this region.

Why don't you use the grunting of Red Deer during the rut season, barking Roe Deer or even a screaming Red Fox?

These sounds can be terrifying, especially when it's a bit dark and the animal is close in thick undergrowth.

 

[Simon G]

In England late autumn and winter woods can be almost silent until you encounter a flock of tits, possibly with Goldcrest, Treecreeper or Nuthatch tagging along. Then you hear a medley of high pitched calls, not very loud, except for Nuthatch which has some distinctive ringing calls, until the flock moves on. You might also encounter a feeding flock of Redpoll or Siskin. I guess it is similar in Sweden and all the birds I've listed appear on the linked chart for October.

The most culturally significant bird I can see on the bar chart is Raven which is strongly associated with death, though I think more ominous than numinous in mood.