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Does it really matter what clothing you wear when birding. (1 Viewer)

senatore

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I ask this because whilst out birding the other day trying to get shots of a Slav.Grebe on a fishing pond some of the other birders had a friendly go at me for being dressed in a bright blue gortex waterproof coat.They were all in olive green/brown coats or in camo gear.

However not much later whilst I was alone on the pond bank the Grebe came right close up to me and posed for some shots.See below how close it got.

I do not want to waste money on a camo coat.Does clothing matter?

Max.
 

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I'm not an expert, but UV seems to be a key factor. I think we are about the only species that doesn't see some form of UV light. Since UV shows up as a bright object to birds & animals, even cammo clothes don't help unless treated. Most laundry detergents have brighteners in them. Most dyes used in clothes have UV in them. If you happen to remember the blacklight craze, then you know what we look like to birds & animals.

I use a detergent that has no brighteners and I wash whatever I use for birding several times, to break down the brighteners in the clothes. I have a black light for Mothing, so I use that to check my clothes. That way I don't wear anything that looks bright to birds & animals. To me, that makes a big difference. I wear a lot of denim and I even wear some red & blue sometimes. I know hummingbirds seem to favor colors like red or yellow, but everything I wear is washed several times and then checked by a black light. There are products that you can buy to kill UV in your clothes, but as I say, using a detergent that is free of brighteners works the easiest and cheapest.

Actually, I think keeping a low profile, keeping hidden, no talking and no sudden movements helps more than anything. Compared to a bird, we are huge, so even the best clothing won't do much if we move about in the field.

Also each bird or animal has a different threshold for how much invasion they will tolerate. Some birds show little concern for us and others seem to never come out of the brush. Mating and Nesting seasons have a factor there too. Some species will defend their turf to anything including humans and you can get closer at those times.

There are things in the natural world that show UV light bands. From what I understand some plants actually will show UV to attract birds. I have never gone out with a UV light to find out, it's just what I have read.

These are just my thoughts from what I have experienced.........
 
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I sometimes think that being obvious and moving slowley means "not being a threat to anything". Being hidden and a bird seeing a small movement that is not identifiable, but not natural, is definately a threat.
 
A Google search turned up this article "What Color Should I Wear While Birding?" by a doctoral student in ornithology: http://www.ksbirds.org/kos/Color.htm

Seems to confirm the notion to generally avoid bright colors and white, especially if you are observing while stationary or are in the forest. Speculates though that if you are moving in the open, bright colors might actually help, since a bird will be able to track your movements easily and so may be less concerned about your sneaking up on it.

One thing the article does not mention though is a safety issue -- in this country at least. I would never go out in a field in camouflage clothing -- I think that's a good way to get shot by a hunter. My usual birding jacket is a dark blue parka, and I make an effort to avoid wearing red and white.

I think most of this is still speculation though. Would be interesting to see if someone could actually develop some sort of test to see how colors affect field birding results.

Best,
Jim
 
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Can you tell me what detergent it is and is there an easier way to check for UV?

I use Purex 100% Hypoallergenic laundry soap. Any brand that's Hypoallergenic usually has No Dyes, No Birghteners and No Scent added.

A black light is the only way I know of, to show up in UV. Black lights are in the UV range. Actually there are two Fluorescents that I know of, produced in the UV range. One is a Black light and the other looks like a regular Fluorescent, but it's in the UV range. When I made my Mothing light, I just used a 12" fixture & Fluorescent UV bulb with a 12vdc converter for an RV. You can buy the handheld UV lights on the internet and other places. You may see them being used in bars & clubs to check money or to check the stamps they put on your hand or the king they use to find pet urine or blood stains.

EDIT: Here's a couple links to hand held UV lights
http://www.amazon.com/Rhode-Island-Novelty-Handheld-Light/dp/B00123AU7M
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230439293914&rvr_id=&crlp=1_263602_263622&UA=WXI7&GUID=590044cd1270a0e20290bd60ffe220b3&itemid=230439293914&ff4=263602_263622
http://www.extremecoolgadgets.com/product_info.php?language=en%C2%A4cy=USD&products_id=1746
 
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I ask this because whilst out birding the other day trying to get shots of a Slav.Grebe on a fishing pond some of the other birders had a friendly go at me for being dressed in a bright blue gortex waterproof coat.They were all in olive green/brown coats or in camo gear.

Birds are very sensitive to number of people. One person can come much closer than two or three. I think it was why the grebe came to you.

Cammo is not needed unless you are a photographer who sits absolutely still and must have a bird come to full-frame view. In many situations, cammo will give you strange looks from people or be stopped by a police.

I wear dull colors: brown, dark green, grey, black jeans. No cammo. I had birds coming very close to me when I was immobile. Also, forest birds seem much more sensitive to colors and noise than in open habitats and water.

Important - and not obvious - is darker tone, which after sunset blends with the vegetation rather than shines. I find it quite difficult to find and to judge tone at daytime. Especially all the brown trousers in outdoor shops are too light.
 
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Actually, I think keeping a low profile, keeping hidden, no talking and no sudden movements helps more than anything. Compared to a bird, we are huge, so even the best clothing won't do much if we move about in the field.

Agreed, I think a bit of patience and fieldcraft go a long way.
 
Aah yes, THAT thread was a classic :-O

Don't think I'll be trying THAT off Stag Rocks just yet mind ;) Tis still a wee bit nippy at times :-O
 
That's a lovely shot Max, nice to see a real close up of one of these, most of my views are several hundreds of yards out in the Solent.

I do not want to waste money on a camo coat.Does clothing matter?

Max.


What I notice when I'm fishing, (think small overgrown lakes and rivers), is that some anglers cover themselves in camo clothes and then go and disappear in a reedbed but their pink little faces show up like shining beacons.

So unless you're going to use a net or somesuch over your head you'll do just as well keeping still and quiet.
 
Invisible thread!

There's a thread HERE with someone's take on what to wear when birding ;)

Actually, my title sounds like the king's new clothes! Seriously, I tried to check that thread by clicking on Keith's link above and the message came up:

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Interesting points on the current thread about washing clothes with detergents and UV light. Remind me not to wash the coat that I wear when birdwatching!

Allen
 
Remind me not to wash the coat that I wear when birdwatching!

I was birding in South America with a friend who decided to, well, optimize time spent washing clothes.

After a few days he asked me if I have specially treated outdoor clothing so all the bugs fly to him. :-O It was very funny. :t:
 
Actually, my title sounds like the king's new clothes! Seriously, I tried to check that thread by clicking on Keith's link above and the message came up:

Allen S. Moore, you do not have permission to access this page. This could be due to one of several reasons:

Your user account may not have sufficient privileges to access this page. Are you trying to edit someone else's post, access administrative features or some other privileged system?
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I take it that it's on the ex-beeb or ruffled feathers forum?
 
I was birding in South America with a friend who decided to, well, optimize time spent washing clothes.

After a few days he asked me if I have specially treated outdoor clothing so all the bugs fly to him. :-O It was very funny. :t:

Jurek,

Good one! I'll leave the coat at home when I go to South America!
 
I ask this because whilst out birding the other day trying to get shots of a Slav.Grebe on a fishing pond some of the other birders had a friendly go at me for being dressed in a bright blue gortex waterproof coat.They were all in olive green/brown coats or in camo gear.

I think I recognise that Slav. If I'm right, and it's the one at Top Barn Farm, then it's used to people wandering around dressed in brightly coloured clothing
 
I have a feeling that this is a topic that gets a lot more attention than it is worth. Think the tropics where birds have red, blue, etc, to hide among all the flowers that you see ;)

I absolutely will not wear dark colors at daytime, it is way to hot. (And I don't think I see that many fewer birds than anyone else)

I lived in Wisconsin for a while, and anything less than bright red endangered your life during hunting season. (bow hunters seemed a little more observant than the ones using guns)

Niels
 
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