Blyth's or Amur Paradise Flycatchers - Singapore (1 Viewer)

[SeeToh]

Shot two Asian Paradise Flycatchers feeding high up the canopy.

The first (first two images) has a paler head and very little contrast between the head and breast while the second bird (third image) has a darker head.

With the recent spilt of the Asian Paradise Flycatchers into 3 separate species: 1. Blyth's Paradise Flycatcher 2. Amur Paradise Flycatcher and 3. Indian Paradise Flycatcher, am I right to ID the first bird as Blyth's and the second as Amur?

 

[Andy Adcock]

With the given range for Amur stated as

central China to North-East China, South- East Russia and North Korea

I very much doubt you get it in Singapore!!!


Andy

 

[HH75]

With the given range for Amur stated as

central China to North-East China, South- East Russia and North Korea

I very much doubt you get it in Singapore!!!


Andy

What about on passage and in winter, though? They're not resident, so perhaps they can/do occur in Singapore? Though I don't have the distribution data to hand here, so I am by no means sure if they do, just pointing out that it is possible at least.

 

[Andy Adcock]

The range is given on the IOC list as stated above, that will include wintering grounds but not vagrancy presumably.

Andy

 

[SeeToh]

My understanding is that all 3 species occur in Southern Thailad and Malaysia. Blyth's is the resident species, Amur the uncommon winter visitor and Indian a rare migrant.

The former Asian Paradise FC which passage Singapore during migration (uncommon migrant) from Northern Asia should be the Amur (incei) while Blyth's is a non-breeding visitor from Malaysia.

 

[viator]

With the given range for Amur stated as

central China to North-East China, South- East Russia and North Korea

I very much doubt you get it in Singapore!!!


Andy

Andy, if you check again (IOC 5.3 master list spreadsheet) the breeding range is given as "c China to ne China, se Russia and North Korea" and non-breeding range as "to Southeast Asia".

See Toh, agree with your id's. Not sure Indian has been recorded in Malaysia though...thought didn't come further sth than Thailand.

 

[SeeToh]

Mike

A serious Malaysian birders said that there 2-3 sightings of Indian but think they were at the northern areas.

 

[Andy Adcock]

Apologies, must have missed copying over winter range when I made the alterations to my sheet!.

Andy

 

[Bryon Wright]

paradise flycatchers in singapore

See Toh,
actually a far reaching post.
The two birds on the left of your posting are Blyth's, the one most vistors have on their life list? When you say Indian, do you mean as a new name for the species or in the Indo-malay, regional sense? Also no mention of japanese paradise flycatcher by you for Singapore?

 

[viator]

See Toh was meaning the three-way split of Asian Paradise Fly IOC have accepted - Blyth's being the regionally local resident, Amur from NE Asia and Indian being from the Indian sub-continent. For Singapore believe most common is Amur as a winter visitor with Blyth's also an uncommon visitor (resident in the past?) with majority of sightings also in winter.

Japanese Paradise Flycatcher is indeed also a very rare visitor to Singapore as well.