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A couple of open Stone questions (1 Viewer)

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Cheramoeca leucosternum stonei Mathews, 1912 OD here

The Eponym Dictionary of Birds claims:

A. Charles Stone (d.1920) was an English immigrant to Australia. He was a businessman, a field ornithologist and Honorary Secretary of the RAOU (1913).

The old key:

A. Charles Stone (d. 1920) English immigrant to Australia, businessman, field-ornithologist (syn. Cheramoeca leucosternum).


Probably Alfred Charles Stone. Not sure when he was born. Or here Alfred Charles Stone (1868–1920).

Pomatorhinus erythrogenys stoneae Deignan, 1952 OD here

The Eponym Dictionary of Birds claims:

Mrs. Joan Evelyn Stone née Sowerby (fl. 1952) was the wife of F. A. Stone, and a relative of Arthur de Charles Sowerby (q.v.).

The old key:

Joan Evelyn Stone née Sowerby (fl. 1952) wife of F. A. Stone, daughter of F. E. Sowerby (syn. Erythrogenys gravivox dedekeni).

When and where born and died is unknown to me. If still alive we might keep her dates as missing.

The missing middle name in Eponym Dictionary of Birds for Ailuroedus stonii Sharpe, 1876 OD seems to be already solved in the good old key:

stonii
Octavius Chamberlin Stone (1846-1933) English ethnographer, explorer in Australia and New Guinea 1875-1876, collector, traveller in Europe (subsp. Ailuroedus buccoides).

Apart from that in Eponym Dictionary of Birds we can find Stone's Pheasant (no scientific name) therefore not in the old key.

John J. Stone (DNF) was an aviculturist involved in collecting various pheasant taxa, and trying to establish them in Britain. Elliot wrote 'It is to the exertions of Mr. Stone, who has succeeded in bringing to Europe many of the rarer species of this of this family, that we are indebted for the opportunity of being able to describe this new form'. Stone is also mentioned – as 'the late Mr. John J. Stone' – in William Tegetmeier's work Pheasants: their Natural History and Practical Management (1881), but little seems to have been recorded about his life.

When he lived or what his middle name was may or may not of interest here in birdforum.
 
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Cheramoeca leucosternum stonei Mathews, 1912 OD here
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Probably Alfred Charles Stone. Not sure when he was born.
Obituary in Emu (but no birth date or age indicated): https://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/page/8991071
He died on 22 Mar 1920. For years, the family published a short in memoriam note on the day of his death in the Melbourne newspaper The Argus, where he was consistently called "Alfred Charles Stone" : https://trove.nla.gov.au/search/advanced/category/newspapers?keyword.phrase=alfred charles stone&keyword=memoriam&sortBy=dateAsc&startPos=0 -- I don't think the name can be doubted.
 
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The missing middle name in Eponym Dictionary of Birds for Ailuroedus stonii Sharpe, 1876 OD seems to be already solved in the good old key:
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I would hope so ...

stonii as in:
the subspecies Ailuroedus buccoides stonii SHARPE 1876, as "Ælurœdus stonii", was earlier dealt with (back in February 2016), in thread Stone's Cat-bird (here) ... where a certain "Taphrospilus" participated. ;)

B
 
Cheramoeca leucosternum stonei Mathews, 1912 OD here
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Probably Alfred Charles Stone. Not sure when he was born. Or here Alfred Charles Stone (1868–1920).
Obituary in Emu (but no birth date or age indicated): https://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/page/8991071
He died on 22 Mar 1920. For years, the family published a short in memoriam note on the day of his death in the Melbourne newspaper The Argus, where he was consistently called "Alfred Charles Stone" : https://trove.nla.gov.au/search/advanced/category/newspapers?keyword.phrase=alfred charles stone&keyword=memoriam&sortBy=dateAsc&startPos=0 -- I don't think the name can be doubted.
Also note, in that certain Family/Death Notice from the Argus (attached), the added, more specified or clarified (place of Origin); "Stroud, Gloucestershire, England", which might, or possibly could, make it (somewhat) easier to pinpoint his Place of Birth.

Good luck finding it (and him, there)!

/B
 

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I also gave the last Stone (and this Common/Vernacular name) a try, an attempt ... (that actually turned out far, far longer than I expected, maybe too long, but bear with me), regarding:

• the West-central Chinese ssp. Stone's (Common) Pheasant Phasianus colchicus elegans ELLIOT 1870, (here), as "Phasianus elegans":
It is to the exertions of Mr. Stone, who has succeeded in bringing to Europe many of the rarer species of this family, that we are indebted for the opportunity of being able to describe this new form.
In A Monograph of the Phasianidae, from 1872 [Spectacularly illustrated by Joseph Smit (1836–1929)], by Daniel Giraud Elliot (i.e. the Author/Auctor himself) this bird was called "GREEN-BACK GOLDEN PHEASANT" (here, and Plate here).

As far as I can tell this Common/Vernacular name was coined by William Robert Ogilvie-Grant, in A Hand-Book to the Game Birds, Vol. II, 1897 (here), and again used in William Beebe's A Monograph of the Pheasants, Vol. III (1922), even if there on a ssp. level (here). It wasn't given any Common name in (the same) Ogilvie-Grant's Catalogue of the Birds in the British Museum, Vol. 22 (here), nor by Seebohm, in The Ibis, of 1888 (here).

One of the Type specimens (Syntype) is kept in the BNHM (here): "... presented by J. J. Stone." (here), but I'm not so sure if he truly collected it, that is in Field, in China. He might simply have received it, from China, and kept it in his own collection, or Aviaries.

Though, nothing additional (absolutely nothing) on Mr. Stone himself in those (contemporary) texts. If his full name truly was "John J. Stone", as claimed by Beolens et al. (2014) I cannot tell. It could be. Or not.

Though, it sure looks like it by the Paper in Martin's post #7 (posted while I was busy typing this one this one) ... :rolleyes:

He could (very well) equally be the "late Mr. John J. Stone" mentioned by William Bernhard Tegetmeier, in his Pheasants : their natural history and practical management, from 1897 (on page 103, here), and if so I would expect that he could be (or could have been) found in the vicinity of "Scyborwen" (wherever that is)?

But I think he actually is "our guy", as he's mentioned again (even if there about 'Reeves's Pheasant') as:
The successful introduction of the living birds now in England is owing to the combined efforts of the late Mr. John J. Stone and ...
[... ]
For several years Mr. Stone made continuous efforts to obtain this and other new pheasants from Northern China, but with no satisfactory results until ...
[Page 179]

The late Mr. J. J. Stone, to whom naturalists are so much indebted for his introduction of this and other splendid Pheasants.
[Page 181]
Could he have been living and keeping his dear Pheasants in Wales (somewhere "on the Welsh Hills", as of this phrase, from the same book) ... ?

Though, it might be hard to find a Stone on a Hill, or in any Hills ... :unsure:

However, see here, where the same location is somewhat more specified or defined, as: "Scyborwen, near Monmouth".

Though: Disclaimer: In John Gould's Birds of Asia, Vol VII, again about the Reeves's Pheasant (also commenting, and quoting, Tegetmeier) we're told [my bold/blue]:
I am greatly indebted to James J. Stone, Esq., of Scyborwen, Llantrissent, for his kindness in submitting to my inspection examples of this and many other fine Pheasants when they unfortunately die in his aviary.

[here]

And, note that Gould didn't indicate him as being "late" in this text. As Gould's Birds of Asia was published in seven volumes, "1850–1883" (originally in 35 parts, 1849–1883), completed by Richard Bowdler Sharpe, and, as the quote above appeared in the very last of those seven volumes we might assume that Mr. Stone had passed, at some point, between 1883 and 1897.

However, it might not be that easy, according to the "List of Plates" No.33 "Phasianus Reevesii . . Reeves's Pheasant", this Plate was originally published in "April, 1869", which if the text was published at the same time, of course, would explain why Gould didn't (or even couldn't) mention him as late, though on the other hand, if the entire text also was published in 1869 it would be tricky to understand how Gould (who died in 1881) could be commenting on Tegetmeier's later work? Or was it possibly Bowdler Sharpe who 'updated' an older MS text by Gould, when compiling/concluding/completing this major Work, prior to the closing, final publication. Who knows?

Is this yet another case of a James 'John' ... or was Gould maybe, possibly "indebted" to his Son/heir? Or did Gould. or even Bowdler Sharpe, got his first given name wrong? Like I just wrote it: who knows?

Either way; hopefully some of this could be of some use, or help, (for anyone keener) in trying to find this seemingly unknown Aviculturist, if any further attempts will be done, of course, to pin-point "our guy"; Mr. J. J. Stone, "of Scyborwen, Llantrissent".

Either way; that's about all I can find on this guy (and "his" elegant/common Pheasant), I will leave him there "near Monmouth".

Probably it's this place; "Llantrisant / Llantrisaint Fawr (Monmouthshire)". (as of here or/alt. here).

Good luck finding his whereabouts! And his true (full) name.

Björn

PS. Also consider; there's a "Stone John Jefferies, Esq., Scyborwen Llantrissent, Newport", listed in Directory for Monmouthshire—Monmouth (on p.35), though from what year I cannot tell (link lost, see attached JPG, undated).

Looks like his wife was Mary Mulready (who died in 1878 "April 26, ...aged 58 years", here).

And; in the Liverpool Mercury, for September 20, 1879 (Note: unseen by me, in full) there seem to be a note of: "Mr. John Jeffries Stone, J.P., late of Scyborwen, in the parish of Llantrissent, Monmouthshire, of Ashton villa, Wickham-road, Deptford, and ... ", though, this far, no connection found between that certain (full) name, to Aviculture or Natural History. But I wouldn't be surprised if he's the guy we're looking for. Fingers crossed. Good luck.

Now I'm done!

/B
 

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John Jefferies Stone 1818-1879
Was a principle in the East india Company hence his access to pheasants..




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However, it might not be that easy, according to the "List of Plates" No.33 "Phasianus Reevesii . . Reeves's Pheasant", this Plate was originally published in "April, 1869", which if the text was published at the same time, of course, would explain why Gould didn't (or even couldn't) mention him as late, though on the other hand, if the entire text also was published in 1869 it would be tricky to understand how Gould (who died in 1881) could be commenting on Tegetmeier's later work? Or was it possibly Bowdler Sharpe who 'updated' an older MS text by Gould, when compiling/concluding/completing this major Work, prior to the closing, final publication. Who knows?
Gould was here commenting on a publication by Tegetmeier "in the 'Field' for June 7, 1867" -- thus not on his later (still to be written) work, which would indeed have been problematic.
So far as I konw, this text was published at the same time as the plate, in 1869; it actually purports to have been written in May 1868 ("at this moment (May 1868)" on the first page).
 
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