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  1. pbjosh

    AOU-NACC Proposals 2020

    Are Europeans not the ones who named the new worlds birds Warblers, Robins, Orioles, etc in the first place? :king:
  2. pbjosh

    AOU-NACC Proposals 2020

    Unless there is another species that nests within the Scrub-Jays that does not currently bear the name Scrub-Jay, they are arguably a taxonomically complete unit.
  3. pbjosh

    AOU-NACC Proposals 2020

    I understand this logic but disagree with the need to have 1:1 alignment of genera to English group names. Should Hawfinch be a Grosbeak? Should Brambling be Mountain Chaffinch? Should Dunnock be Hedge Accentor? Should group names be dropped from masses of tropical species that get split, losing...
  4. pbjosh

    AOU-NACC Proposals 2020

    Agreed on dropping Scrub from Scrub-Jay. They are a taxonomic unit, are well known by that name, and it’s a short and easy to remember name. Seems totally unnecessary and counter to the desire for name stability.
  5. pbjosh

    AOU-NACC Proposals 2020

    Finally back to a computer and caught up on sleep from some covid19 related travel adventures. I should hope that the Paltry/Mistletoe Tyrannulet split goes through. The birds are 100% diagnosable, physically distinct and easy to ID in the field, differ in voice, and differ in habitat. I feel...
  6. pbjosh

    AOU-NACC Proposals 2020

    I just went and looked through the 2017 paper on orange-billed terns that is the basis for the Royal Tern split, available here if anyone is interested: https://academic.oup.com/biolinnean/article/121/2/439/3065482 The data for the Cabot's / Sandwich split looks very solid, but it's not yet...
  7. pbjosh

    AOU-NACC Proposals 2020

    Not what I said at all, and not what anyone else is proposing. This is a strawman argument against a proposal that you have stated you've not even read.
  8. pbjosh

    AOU-NACC Proposals 2020

    Not sure what you mean by asking which authorities are looking. Just to go over it, apologies if this isn't what you were asking: In this case, the American Ornithology Assoc has a committee called the North American Classification Committee. Anyone can write up a proposal, and they vote on...
  9. pbjosh

    AOU-NACC Proposals 2020

    Re: Olive Warbler - this is a essentially a Mexico/Guatemala/Honduras bird that barely makes it into the US and Nicaragua. The vast majority of its range is in Spanish speaking countries. I think that if you see fit to change the name (I'm ambivalent about the necessity), then Ocotero is a great...
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