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  1. Mysticete

    At long last, AOU 2010 pending proposals A

    So an ABA lister gets no lifers with the 2010 checklist update, but loses the beloved genus Dendroica. Birders will be rioting in the street! :)
  2. Mysticete

    At long last, AOU 2010 pending proposals A

    Strongly resisting the urge to throw my mouse through the window, as it's been malfunctioning and acting jerky, which resulted in me closing this window and losing all the below I just typed Anyway: The votes are in (although not linked yet directly on the webpage)...
  3. Mysticete

    At long last, AOU 2010 pending proposals A

    Just to be consistent with the previous update: Kentish-Snowy Plover split accepted (per SACC) http://www.museum.lsu.edu/~remsen/SACCprop482.html Furnarioid re-arrangment accepted (again, per SACC) http://www.museum.lsu.edu/~remsen/SACCprop481.html
  4. Mysticete

    At long last, AOU 2010 pending proposals A

    if only we had word on the rest of the proposals...
  5. Mysticete

    At long last, AOU 2010 pending proposals A

    http://earbirding.com/blog/archives/2675 More information regarding the the Mountain Chickadee split
  6. Mysticete

    At long last, AOU 2010 pending proposals A

    Peeps does a partial recap of the proposal http://birding.typepad.com/
  7. Mysticete

    At long last, AOU 2010 pending proposals A

    Oh and I just rechecked. Apparently only one location had haplotypes of both forms, an area near mono lake. So apparently they did mention one possible hybrid zone
  8. Mysticete

    At long last, AOU 2010 pending proposals A

    The Garthman study (IIRC) sampled large numbers (10 birds at each site) throughout the range, not just LA and central Arizona. This paper is actually just one part of a fairly large study looking at North American bird biogeography. It's not clear to me if there are intergrade areas, and...
  9. Mysticete

    At long last, AOU 2010 pending proposals A

    Kirk, If you think that was an emotionally charged rant, you obviously haven't read his common name proposal for Ringed Storm-Petrel http://www.museum.lsu.edu/~Remsen/SACCProp253.html Also I believe their is some support for the Mountain Chickadee split compared to other chickadees. The...
  10. Mysticete

    At long last, AOU 2010 pending proposals A

    IOC has also added a note for Black-fronted Warbler. I will be interested to see what NACC decides for this taxon, and whether IOC acts on it. I think the Proposal does a fair job of casting doubt on the validity of this taxon
  11. Mysticete

    At long last, AOU 2010 pending proposals A

    The SACC checklist though is still not in a final phase. When they agree to split something, it doesn't mean going through back through a already published document to split, delete, or modify stuff that is already in a published (for many printed) form. I think SACC has less issues with...
  12. Mysticete

    At long last, AOU 2010 pending proposals A

    As for proposal systems, sure we all like SACC, but I can see the appeal of the NACC method. Having one set of proposals to read over and vote on at once, might be easier than having a different proposal every week. Especially since I am sure most of the committee members probably read the...
  13. Mysticete

    At long last, AOU 2010 pending proposals A

    The Moorhen name change is something I am also pretty ambivalent about. It's been "Common Moorhen" as long as I was a birder. I think the name situation of turning it back into Common Gallinule is not going to be confusing...There are only one or two records of the old world form within AOU...
  14. Mysticete

    At long last, AOU 2010 pending proposals A

    If you want an alternative topic to discuss, I am sure some birders that have been birding longer than I have will appreciate getting Common Gallinule back
  15. Mysticete

    At long last, AOU 2010 pending proposals A

    That's the thing...I don't really see the need for this proposal. I am fine with Winter Wren and Pacific Wren. Perhaps this argument would have been stronger had had Canada Goose been given a modifier, but it wasn't, and I think that taxa has a greater likelihood of causing problems than the...
  16. Mysticete

    At long last, AOU 2010 pending proposals A

    I think that in this thread so far we have had three different people (me included) who each have three different ideas for what the names are/should be. Obviously this says something about this issue.
  17. Mysticete

    At long last, AOU 2010 pending proposals A

    AOU traditionally has not liked to come back to reassess differences without new data, and I don't see anything in Steve Howell's argument that is new. I think the only persuasive thing in this proposal is the fact that Winter Wren was left the same. Still, I didn't notice that the Cackling...
  18. Mysticete

    At long last, AOU 2010 pending proposals A

    Most of those splits have been adopted by IOC, so they would not give me new species (except for the chickadee split). My predictions on what happens: Snowy Plover, Gallinule, and at least a 2 way Yellow-rump split (maybe 3 way with Goldman's) No clue on chickadee splits...could go either...
  19. Mysticete

    At long last, AOU 2010 pending proposals A

    Summary of taxonomic changes Splits: Kentish Plover and Snowy Plover Mountain Chickadee into the Gambel's (Great Basin/Rocky Mountain) and Bailey's (Sierra Nevada/Pacific coastal) Two, three, or four way split of Yellow-rumped Warbler Split of Sick's Swift (already supported by SACC) as a...
  20. Mysticete

    At long last, AOU 2010 pending proposals A

    has arrived: http://www.aou.org/committees/nacc/proposals/pending.php
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