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    Thoughts ? on Binocular Colors

    Being more traditional, I surprised myself when I ordered my Curios and selected the burnt orange/silver version. I liked the contasting colors on this, rather than solid black which was the other Curio option. However, I ended up exchanging the Curio for the Victory VP, because the Curios...
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    IN PRAISE OF THE SWAROVSKI 12X42 NL PURE

    Tenex, I really appreciate your explanation. Bill
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    IN PRAISE OF THE SWAROVSKI 12X42 NL PURE

    I am not sure that picture is just showing increased AFOV, even though it says so. Beyond the white circle, it seems to show more FOV, too, doesn't it? I didn't think.that real FOV increased just because AFOV increased for the same magnification. Am I missing something?
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    IN PRAISE OF THE SWAROVSKI 12X42 NL PURE

    Tom, We have discussed this ad nauseum, both in this forum and personally. Your analogy is absolutely on target! Don't back off just because one guy doesn't like it or thinks we don't need analogies to understand AFOV. In fact the more, I think about it, the better I like your analogy...
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    IN PRAISE OF THE SWAROVSKI 12X42 NL PURE

    William, I believe the 12x42 Nl beats the 8x42Nl, 71 vs 69. It doesn't sound like a big difference in AFOV, but I can easily see the difference. (I own both.) The much greater magnification may also contribute to that impression. Bill
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    IN PRAISE OF THE SWAROVSKI 12X42 NL PURE

    Why do you think Nikon would understate the AFOV by so much? You would think that if any binocular had a AFOV of 85, Nikon would want that known, since their AFOV is so beyond any other binocular's, it puts theirs in a class by itself.
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    IN PRAISE OF THE SWAROVSKI 12X42 NL PURE

    Regarding AFOV being a marketing ploy may be partially true. However, when you look through a binocular and are WOWed by the view, chances are you are NOT being wowed by the real FOV. You are being WOWed by the AFOV. This is why the NLs get all the accolades for their wide immersive field of...
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    IN PRAISE OF THE SWAROVSKI 12X42 NL PURE

    I see nothing wrong with the Tom's TV analogy. You are seeing the same picture through two different size windows. Of course you have to be at the same viewing distance, just like different binoculars are placed against your eyes. The bigger TV only magnifies the size of each pixel which are...
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    IN PRAISE OF THE SWAROVSKI 12X42 NL PURE

    That may be true if you define wide view as being anythung greater than an AFOV of 60. But wider real FOV don't always correlate with AFOV. For example, the Curio has a slightly bigger real FOV than the VP, yet the Curio has a AFOV of 51, which would make it a non wide view compared to the VP...
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    IN PRAISE OF THE SWAROVSKI 12X42 NL PURE

    I am sure the difference in viewing with AFOV of 42 vs 72 has got to be quite significant, more so than the real FOV difference would suggest. However, do you really mean you can tell that a particulary bino is a wide view or not by knowing its AFOV alone? Isn't it possible to have a narrow...
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    IN PRAISE OF THE SWAROVSKI 12X42 NL PURE

    By George, I think you nailed it!
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    So I took the plunge...

    While I understand why you need a less bulky pair of binos, why give up the magnification that you need and love? The 10x32 Nl might check all the boxes for you, except, perhaps its 3.2 EP, which is about the same as your 8x25 VP. You might wish for a bigger EP with a 10x32 Nl, but its better...
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    So I took the plunge...

    Take a selfie.
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    So I took the plunge...

    I am having a hard time picturing the binos a bit to the side coming from the waist, yet residing on the chest. A photo might help. ThanksI
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    So I took the plunge...

    Tom, thanks. Yes. I'll fix my post.
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    So I took the plunge...

    A while back, I took the plunge, too, and bought my first alpha bino, the 8x42 Nl. It was a difficult decision which of the Nls to buy.. Rather than go for higher magnification, I went for maximum FOV with the incomparable field of view the 8 Nl offered. Subsequently, I had a bit of buyers...
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    Year of Manufacture?

    Is the year of manufacturing somehow embedded or encoded within the serial number, in any way, like Swarovsk does with newer binos, using the first 2 digets to which you add 2010? In other words, does Zeiss have its own system making it possible for anyone to figure out from its serial number...
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    Swarovski Curio 7x21 versus Victory 8x25 and Ultravid 8x20

    It took me about 20 min to get used to the asymmetrical hinge. The hardest part of that was keeping the hinge on an angle in order to keep the barrels horizontal. The focuser is larger on the VP and my extended Rt index finger more naturally falls onto it, (If I was left handed, I can see...
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    Swarovski Curio 7x21 versus Victory 8x25 and Ultravid 8x20

    Happy NewYear, everyone!! I just bought a pair of the VP8 x25 to compare with my Curios that I have been using for about 3 weeks. Why? Well, although I initially loved the Curio, there were a few things that bothered me, most of which had to do with handling and holding them steady. They are so...
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    Swarovski Curio 7x21 versus Victory 8x25 and Ultravid 8x20

    0p%2 You are absolutely right. Thanks for correcting my post. However, I would guess that the Curio, because of its edge to edge sharpness, i.e. flat field, might give the impression of a wider FOV that the numbers don't suggest. Again, I could be wrong. I have never had the pleasure of...
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    Swarovski Curio 7x21 versus Victory 8x25 and Ultravid 8x20

    I doubt that you will see a significant difference going from 7 to 8x. Furthermore, you won't have the amazing brightness, nor the FOV that you have with your Curio. Still, you might want to try the VP8x25. If you do, I would bet you will appreciate the Curio more. ( IMO, I wouldn't be...
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    Swarovski Curio 7x21 versus Victory 8x25 and Ultravid 8x20

    I am sorry if it seemed that I was saying the same thing. I didn't think so. I was hoping to add clarity to what you were saying, because I wasn't sure I understood your remark. Why? Earlier, you had complained when I said the Curios in some situations were like a capable child trying to do...
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    Swarovski Curio 7x21 versus Victory 8x25 and Ultravid 8x20

    The hammer can be excellent but not right for the job at hand. Would you use a fine watch hammer as a sledge hammer to break concrete? It wouldn't begin to do that job. Nor would you use a sledge hammer on a watch. Each tool has its place where it works best. Curios and Nls are both excellent...
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    Swarovski Curio 7x21 versus Victory 8x25 and Ultravid 8x20

    I don't know if you own Nls or not. I have difficulty holding the Curio as steady as I can the Nls with their FHR. I wear glasses and I am 79 years old which could play a role in why the Curio is not as comfortable for me in the long run. In addition, I think the larger exit pupil, better...
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    Swarovski Curio 7x21 versus Victory 8x25 and Ultravid 8x20

    You are right that no corners were cut when designing the Curio. However, it was designed as a pocket bino. As such, it probably is better than all of the other pocket binos out there. That's why I said it is a "capable" child, not just any child. However, it certainly was never made to be...
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