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  1. Larry Sweetland

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    Re cuckooshrike split, is it panayensis on Negros?
  2. Larry Sweetland

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    There appears to be a lot more interest in the nutcracker split than these 😆
  3. Larry Sweetland

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    Well spotted🤦! I did mean 14.1 though, as you suspected 👍
  4. Larry Sweetland

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    Much appreciated Shaun 👍 Also, does anyone know the new extant species total for version 4.1?
  5. Larry Sweetland

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    Still confused with the Short-tailed Babbler split. Which one(s) are in Sabah?
  6. Larry Sweetland

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    Quite often the fresh information put out by IOC concerning a new split still leaves me wondering which forms are at certain locations. This thread is extremely useful for fine tuning that information thanks to the collective knowledge of people who get involved with this thread. Nice one Andy...
  7. Larry Sweetland

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    Carnage! 🥺
  8. Larry Sweetland

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    Interesting. I wonder what the only form I've seen (dryas) will end up being called then? 🤷. Gutted to miss out on the name Supertramp!
  9. Larry Sweetland

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    Namibia/Angola border was apparently a risky area at the time of year we were there IIRC,. Anyway,we digress!
  10. Larry Sweetland

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    No. We did a bit of a smash and grab up in northern Namibia before driving back down south, all the time feeling a bit nervous about getting malaria cos Nicky was pregnant. Saw some birds I've not seen anywhere else though
  11. Larry Sweetland

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    I've seen Angola through bins across the river 😂
  12. Larry Sweetland

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    And I think Aurora is a great name given the bird's appearance. It really is a "wow" of colour to the extent that I actually remember seeing it (unlike 2 other Olive-backed Sunbird splits which I had to check my notebooks before knowing I saw them 😆)
  13. Larry Sweetland

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    Something similar! I've added 11 from this recent lot (which still means my list has gone down slightly as a percentage), and I too have just gone over a new milestone. There was a point yesterday when I could have belted up to Shetland for the Veery and hit the milestone naturally with an...
  14. Larry Sweetland

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    So are you saying that each one of those new species is monotypic and all the other subspecies remain within jugularis? Seems an odd way to split it if so.
  15. Larry Sweetland

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    Wow 🤯. Can anyone help with which subspecies are aligned within which of these?
  16. Larry Sweetland

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    That's what it looks like to me
  17. Larry Sweetland

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    I can't find it in my notes from Khao Yai either. Luckily I can from Sumatra and Philippines though I can't remember the sightings! 🥺
  18. Larry Sweetland

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    I'm really glad of my old notebooks right now! This is just the sort of bird I wouldn't necessarily have written down though in the past.
  19. Larry Sweetland

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    If the three forms of Intermediate Egret (sensu lato) average different lengths, perhaps we can have Great Intermediate Egret, Intermediate Intermediate Egret and Little Intermediate Egret? That'll sort things right out 😂
  20. Larry Sweetland

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    Can someone please tell me what the current extant species total is? Is it now 11,001?
  21. Larry Sweetland

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    Are Northern and Southern Buff-throated Foliage-gleaners now the longest bird names?
  22. Larry Sweetland

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    I guess it might be for a variety of reasons 🤷. Maybe more and more studies are being done that are concluding things, followed by more and more studies that then conclude different things! It's never been so confusing (at least to me!) 🤔 I (like you, Andy) just wish they'd stop lumping and...
  23. Larry Sweetland

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    Although it's not a blood bath until the cannons are actually fired! At the mo there are just more and more cannons being aimed at the battlements defending our cowering lists 😳
  24. Larry Sweetland

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    Not only that, but people with a different first language to your own can pronounce scientific names unintelligibly to you! I recall a birder who didn't know the english name repeating a bird's scientific name over and over again before I realised he was saying a name that we both new ...
  25. Larry Sweetland

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    It appears not have yet made it onto the 13.2 draft of accepted splits though (unlike the oriole and the sandplover) 🤔..... I've also found that even if you "count your chickens" when the splits are accepted in the draft, they don't invariably make it when the update comes. Can't remember which...
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