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We have decided not to use ATMs because of the reports we have read. Instead we are taking a load of cash. Seems easier to go to the bank and change it but I will report back to you on that as I will on everything else useful we find out. Don't worry - I promise to pass stuff on! I am not a secretive birder - I am always happy to pass useful info on as I am always grateful for whatever others pass on to me. Was not happy with the person who once recommended a duff guide though. Wrecked our holiday in Thailand.

The report I am finding most useful is the one by jvanderw. http://johnbirding.wolweb.nl
The only e-mail address I can currently confirm as being correct is that of Angel and Orestes Martines Garcia who live in Playa Largo. [email protected] They charge 50 CUC a day.

One point - when you send off for your Cuban visitors' cards, make sure to include the extra £15 for not doing it in person! They really do send them back by return post but are only slips of paper.

Ann

I have tried contacting other guides but not had replies.
 
As regards getting money in Cuba, most major hotels have CADECAs (change houses) where you can either do just that, change your ££ or Euros to CUCs (Cuban convertible pesos), or get local currency using a card (non-US of course). You won't need to be staying at the hotel to use them. Although it is always sensible to have a supply of cash to tide you over a few days, there's certainly no need to carry around a suitcase-load. And, most hotels will accept credit cards. Casas particulares, of course, will require paying in cash.
 
Well, here we are, back home to the frost!

Cuba was great - like going back to the fifties! Great food, great hospitality. If anyone wants info, please don't hesitate to PM me. My trip reports tend to be long-winded as I put everything in!

We can recommend staying in casas particulares - wonderful food and hospitality - BUT interfered with our early nights because noisy! Ana at La Casa de Ana in Havana arranged all our home-stays for us http://www.anahavana.com
No problem getting early breakfasts though even at 5h30!!

Roads and motorways: Wowee! Have to be seen to be believed!!
Guides: We used Angel who can be contacted as on previous post. We did 3 early morning sessions and 2 afternoon sessions with him. He was polite, prompt and helpful and arranged our lunches for us at a casa (yummy crocodile one day). Better still, he was a good guide! Highly recommended. At La Guira, we wanted to use Julio Cesar but he was busy. He is a very nice man who speaks good English. He rang us at our casa and arranged to meet us and pass on details of where to go and how to get there. He is slow to respond to e-mail because he uses the hotel system. At Caya Coco we used Eliser Socarras Torres. He is excellent at forest birds. PM for details!! We spotted a flock of American avocets with him - a new record!
 
We're back too. Pretty pleased with the results. We managed some birding on about 8 of our "14" day (thanks Air France) and chalked up about 120 species, which is probably ok for the time of year. However about 70 of them will be lifers which is a really good ratio, given that we've been to the region before. Missed out on some of the Cayo Coco specialities due to poor planning an not being able to contact a guide (internet in Cuba is pretty awful) and didn't get anything with Zapata in its name - El Chino's spots for Sparrow and Wren having recently been burned :( but some consolation in the form of Cuban Nightjar and American White Pelican and cracking views of all the Quail Doves. Independent travel in Cuba is not the easiest but it's doable. Car rental was painfully expensive.
 
It is rumored that brand new cars could be getting shipped to be offered in Cuba, as changes will allow for it next year. A brand new market for exports is definitely welcome among vehicle makers, and a brand new place to ship vehicles may be opening up after years without access. Car makers chose Cuba to be the next spot for car business, since Cubans are known to be the best in terms of cars. Their expertise when it comes to cars is great. Finally sales of brand new automobiles are finally going to resume after decades of absence, in Cuba. Here's the proof: New cars to be sold in Cuba in 2012.
 
Hi,

I am thinking of going to Cuba next March/April with my wife for 2 weeks. We want to visit Havana for a few days and then spend the rest at a coastal area(twin centre holiday). This will not be a birding holiday as such but I would certainly like to make the most of any areas near the hotel we decide to stay in. I would also like to hire a guide for a day or two to help me find some of the trickier birds which could be possible near to area we will stay in. I clearly appreciate that quite few endemics will be missed by doing this, but I would be pretty happy to just get the Tody, Trogon and a few others.

By reading this thread, it appears as if Cayo Coco could be ideal for this(enough life and things going on for a non birder) and also easy access for me to get to a few birding locations.

Any suggestions would be gratefully received. Also, if anybody knows of any current guides, this would also be very useful.

Cheers

Steve
 
Look at my April Cayo Guillemo report.
It might tempt you!
I recommend the Sol Cayo Guillermo because it is the last hotel of four so you can be out of the hotel complex area quicker.
Also it has a brilliant lagoon attached .You can also walk to the flamingo lagoon from here.
They run a daily bus to Cayo Coco if you want to visit there

Stayed from 5/4/2013 to 12/4/2013

Cayo Guillermo
A small island only 18 square kilometres but around 85% is mangrove forest,lagoons and swamps.
There are just 4 hotels on the island.

The Sol Cayo Guillermo Hotel

A typical Cuban AI hotel well landscaped with 1000's of plants and trees.
It borders a huge mangrove lagoon and also the sea and beach.
Great food and drinks package and a pleasant friendly atmosphere.

Getting around.
An open top bus plies it's trade between Cayo Coco across the causeway ,past all the Cayo Guillermo hotels to the end of the island at Playa Pilar.
Return costs are $5 return.

Otherwise you can easily walk to any of the places I have mentioned apart from Playa Pilar.

Playa Pilar
A dream Carribean beach at the western end of the island.
From the bus stop and car park head west to Zona La Punta an idyllic area far from the sunbeds.
The star bird was a Black Skimmer sitting with the Laughing Gulls at Zona La Punta..
I didn't expect to see it as it was described as both rarity and nocturnal.

At Zona La Punta I saw 2 Frigate Birds, Great Blue Heron.Great Egret,Snowy Egret,Little Blue Heron,White Ibis,10 Royal Tern,Double Crested Cormorant,Spotted Sandpiper and several Pelican..
A flowering cactus attracted 3 Cuban Emerald,a Cape May Warbler,a Parula and a Prairie Warbler.If you see a flowering cactus its well worth having a good look.

Along the sandy track to Zona La Punta an Eastern Wood Pewee appeared along with a Crescent Eyed Pewee..
The area around the car park and boardwalk was great for birds.
They included 4 grounded Turkey Vulture,Northern Parula,Prairie Warbler,Common Yellowthroat,Cuban Emerald.Gray Kingbird,Greater Antillean Grackle,Crescent Eyed Pewee,Northern Mockingbird,Zenaida Dove and my first Cuban Bullfinch.

The Punta Playuela Track

Every time a took this walk something new turned up.
From the northern path along the Sol Cayo Guillermo lagoon keep on going north west keeping the sea to your right.

Just before you reach the deserted beach there is a rough track to your left marked by a wind blown wooden parasol.
This track soon comes to a dead end but it was a great little area for birds.
After pishing about a little,a Gray Catbird appeared momentarily.this was my 650 lifer so another milestone passed.
My first and only Cuban Gnatcatcher was here along with an Oriente Warbler which was my sole sighting.
There was also an American Redstart among the coastal scrub as well as the common Prairie Warbler and Palm Warbler.
Two White Winged Dove were always about along with some Mourning Dove.Two American Oystercatcher were on the rocks before the beach.
The seaweed strewn beach was wonderful.
The All Inclusive crowd seldom ventured this far and we usually had the beach to ourselves.
The main attraction were two Piping Plover which were not only supposed to be rare but also endangered.They were here every day with two Wilson's Plover.Other birds seen here were several Turnstone,a Spotted Sandpiper and 3 Sanderling.A Red Breasted Merganser put in a cameo appearance one morning.There was a Semipalmated Plover present on one morning,
Common Blackhawk was regular along with,Turkey Vulture,Pelican, Royal Tern and Laughing Gull.

The Cayo Guillermo Lagoons
As you enter the Cayo there are lagoons on both sides of the road all the way to Playa Pliar about 8 kilometres away.
The big attraction was Flamingo Lagoon ,the second lagoon on your right as you head west.
There were at least 50 Flamingos most days.
The rest of the lagoon and muddy edges was teeming with birds including,Great Egret,White Ibis,Tri Coloured Heron,Green Heron,scores of Least Sandpiper,as well as Lesser Yellow Leg,Short Billed Dowitcher,Willet,Stilt Sandpiper,Black Bellied Plover, two Semiplamated Sandpiper, Killdeer,Blue Winged Teal,Common Moorhen,Barn Swallow, and Laughing Gull.
The usual Common Blackhawk was seen and a Crested Caracas was reported to be further down the road one day.
A Palm Warbler and Yellow Warbler were seen in the bushes
I saw an American Crow one morning which surprised me since it wasn't even mentioned in the Helm Guide.
All the lagoons were worth checking as the situation changed from day to day.


The Sol Cayo Guillermo Hotel Lagoon

This was the last productive lagoon as you travel west.
It is the only one not viewable from the main road but the public can access the northern track.
Just turn right past the power station and take the sandy track till you turn right to walk along the northern track.
All the birds mentioned can be seen from this area or anywhere from the hotel grounds where they meet the lagoon.
Sadly the hotel removed the resident crocodile in case it went all inclusive and ate a guest.
Health and Safety gone mad if you ask me.

It was the only lagoon where I saw the Roseate Spoonbill.

I recorded- Flamingo,Roseate Spoonbill[6 maximum].Green Heron,Snowy Egret,
White Ibis,Little Blue Heron,Reddish Egret,Stilt Sandpiper,Cattle Egret,Great Blue Heron,Killdeer,Least Sandpiper[maximum6]Semipalmated Plover,Turnstone,Spotted Sandpiper,Royal Tern[10 maximum] Frigatebird,Double Crested Cormorant,Laughing Gull,Turkey Vulture,Common Blackhawk,

The Sol Cayo Guillermo Hotel Grounds

The four hotels on the island a very similar.
There were lots of plants,trees and lawned areas as well as the extensive beach area.
Apart from the birds in the abovementioned Sol Cayo Guillermo Hotel lagoon I spotted the following from the rest of the hotel-
Laughing Gull,Ring Billed Gull,Frigate Bird,Pelican,Turkey Vulture,Common Blackhawk,Cuban Green Woodpecker,Crescent Eyed Pewee, Cuban Emerald,Prairie Warbler,Northern Perula,Common Yellowthroat,Palm Warbler,Cape May Warbler,Mockingbird,American Redstart,White Winged Dove,Ground Dove,Mourning Dove,Eleinda Dove,Greater Antillean Grackle,American Kestrel,Collared Dove,Loggerhead Kingbird, Northern Waterthrush,House Sparrow
 
Forgot to mention that you are unlikely to need a guide.
The birds are easy to identify with a good bird book to hand.I used the Helm Guide to the Birds of the West Indies.
You can use the island bus to get around,the taxis or hire a scooter.The roads are virtually traffic free.
 
Hi Pratincol,

Many thanks for the super informative post.

I have in fact been looking at that hotel which looks great.

I will certainly do plenty of homework before I go so I am not concerned about id, just maybe locating some of the scarcer species. Are you aware of any particular guides in the area?

Also, did you happen to come across the Tody or Trogon? These would be high on my 'want' list.

Cheers

Steve
 
The Sol is a decent hotel.
The food and drinks AI package is fine and the service is good.
It is beautifully landscaped.
The low level accomodation is well spread out so you never feel crowded.
Best thing about it is the wonderful picture postcard beach and the lagoon which surrounds it.The lagoon and gardens are full of birds.
I met some birdwatchers who took the bus to Cayo Coco to see the Tody but I don't know if they saw one.
I think you would have to take a long trip to the mainland to see a Trogon.
I am not sure if there are any guides in the area.
There are no villages on the island so no local population[the hotel workers are bussed in every day fron the mainland a one and half hour journey hence the island is unspoilt]
 
Hi,

I have now booked a two week holiday in Cuba staying at the Hotel Sol on Cayo Guillermo.

Does anybody have any up-to-date contact details for a guide in this area?

I am keen on getting a bit further afield for a day or two to try and secure the Tody, Trogon etc.

Cheers
 
Hi Snapper

I was in the Cayos Feb 2013, I used a guide called Paulino Delgado, I booked him for a full day to the mainland. He was a superb guide and we connected with all the endemics in this area.
The cave area near to the hotels around Cayo Coco produced Bahama Mockingbird, Cuban Vireo, Thick billed vireo, Zapata Sparrow, Tody, Key west quail dove.
On the mainland we had Gundlachs hawk, Cuban Trogan, Eastern meadowlark, Cuban Pygmy Owl.
The Tody was easy only 300m from the hotel in Cayo Coco.
I believe his phone no is 53-52673207.
His e-mail is available on the forum.

You will have a great time and birds are everywhere.

Thanks
Darren
 
Agree you will have a great time.
Not sure when you are going but the lagoons were swarming with birds in April.It made Leighton Moss look like an afternoon tea party.
For easy accesible birdwatching you can't beat it.
The lagoon at the Sol lagoon alone was brilliant.
I used to observe it from
1] the north west exit.Walk to the north west end until you come to the end of the chalets.There is an abandonned kindergarten there.You will see a green exit gate which joins the path running along the edge of the lagoon.Walk along here till you get a good view of the lagoon.
2] The 'disco pavillion'.Just to the left of the tennis courts there is a bridge to the disco pavillion island.This island is excellent for birds[supposed to be crocodiles around so take care!]

3] Walk to the eastern edge of the chalets.
Look for the last chalets furthest away from the beach.Then find the edge of the stream which is between the last chalets and a landscaped service area.
There is a connecting stream between the lagoons.
Saw the waterthrush,woodpecker,warblers and most of the lagoon birds from here.A great little spot.

Try and take the Punta Playuela Track when you can.I used to start from number 1 above or just walk past the lobster restaurant on the north west edge of the hotel.
Apparantly the American Oystercatchers I saw there were a first for the island.
Make sure you keep the sea on your right as close as possible so you know you are on the right track.Halfway between the hotel and Playa Playuela look for a dead end track amonst the shrubs on your left.It leads to a rubbish dump.You know what rubbish dumps means! Birds.
Saw an Oriente Warbler here,Gnatcatcher,Catbird,American redstart and a few warblers here.
Retrace your steps to the track and head to the deserted Punta Playuela beach.
it is covered in seaweed and debris.
Take care around here as this is where the plovers are.They are so well camaflauged you can easily spook them.

Playa Pilar Zona La Punta-When you go there there is a car park area which is great for birds from here to the cafe.
When you get to the beach turn left and walk past the sunbeds.Keep on going till you reach a track on your left which goes inland.Walk inland till it reaches a T junction.Walk right till you reach the sea ,Zona La Punta.
Here I saw the Frigate birds,a Skimmer,Peweees and loads of Warblers.

The warblers are surprisingly easy to see.The marker birds are Northern Perula,Common Yellowthroat,Palm Warbler,Cape May Warbler.
Anything else is unusual.

The Flamingo Lagoon

This was by far the best lagoon of them all.It is the second last lagoon on your left before you leave the island.You can get the bus there,taxi or just walk from the hotel.As you are walking along there are lagoons on either side.
The Flamingo Lagoon was the best of all.
Have a great holiday.
I am going further east in March to Guardalavaca.It can't be as good as this area surely.
 
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Hi Snapper

I was in the Cayos Feb 2013, I used a guide called Paulino Delgado, I booked him for a full day to the mainland. He was a superb guide and we connected with all the endemics in this area.
The cave area near to the hotels around Cayo Coco produced Bahama Mockingbird, Cuban Vireo, Thick billed vireo, Zapata Sparrow, Tody, Key west quail dove.
On the mainland we had Gundlachs hawk, Cuban Trogan, Eastern meadowlark, Cuban Pygmy Owl.
The Tody was easy only 300m from the hotel in Cayo Coco.
I believe his phone no is 53-52673207.
His e-mail is available on the forum.

You will have a great time and birds are everywhere.

Thanks
Darren

Hi Darren,

Many thanks for the details, really appreciated. Do you know whereabouts on Birdforum I can find the e-mail for Paulino?

Cheers

Steve
 
Agree you will have a great time.
Not sure when you are going but the lagoons were swarming with birds in April.It made Leighton Moss look like an afternoon tea party.
For easy accesible birdwatching you can't beat it.
The lagoon at the Sol lagoon alone was brilliant.
I used to observe it from
1] the north west exit.Walk to the north west end until you come to the end of the chalets.There is an abandonned kindergarten there.You will see a green exit gate which joins the path running along the edge of the lagoon.Walk along here till you get a good view of the lagoon.
2] The 'disco pavillion'.Just to the left of the tennis courts there is a bridge to the disco pavillion island.This island is excellent for birds[supposed to be crocodiles around so take care!]

3] Walk to the eastern edge of the chalets.
Look for the last chalets furthest away from the beach.Then find the edge of the stream which is between the last chalets and a landscaped service area.
There is a connecting stream between the lagoons.
Saw the waterthrush,woodpecker,warblers and most of the lagoon birds from here.A great little spot.

Try and take the Punta Playuela Track when you can.I used to start from number 1 above or just walk past the lobster restaurant on the north west edge of the hotel.
Apparantly the American Oystercatchers I saw there were a first for the island.
Make sure you keep the sea on your right as close as possible so you know you are on the right track.Halfway between the hotel and Playa Playuela look for a dead end track amonst the shrubs on your left.It leads to a rubbish dump.You know what rubbish dumps means! Birds.
Saw an Oriente Warbler here,Gnatcatcher,Catbird,American redstart and a few warblers here.
Retrace your steps to the track and head to the deserted Punta Playuela beach.
it is covered in seaweed and debris.
Take care around here as this is where the plovers are.They are so well camaflauged you can easily spook them.

Playa Pilar Zona La Punta-When you go there there is a car park area which is great for birds from here to the cafe.
When you get to the beach turn left and walk past the sunbeds.Keep on going till you reach a track on your left which goes inland.Walk inland till it reaches a T junction.Walk right till you reach the sea ,Zona La Punta.
Here I saw the Frigate birds,a Skimmer,Peweees and loads of Warblers.

The warblers are surprisingly easy to see.The marker birds are Northern Perula,Common Yellowthroat,Palm Warbler,Cape May Warbler.
Anything else is unusual.

The Flamingo Lagoon

This was by far the best lagoon of them all.It is the second last lagoon on your left before you leave the island.You can get the bus there,taxi or just walk from the hotel.As you are walking along there are lagoons on either side.
The Flamingo Lagoon was the best of all.
Have a great holiday.
I am going further east in March to Guardalavaca.It can't be as good as this area surely.

Thanks Pratincol,

Quality information which I will print off to use :t:

This will certainly keep me occupied when the wife is reading the kindle on the sun lounger!

Cheers

Steve
 
Hi Steve

The phone no for Paulino is 53-52673207 Mobile, Landline 53-33520279
Ive lost his business card and are struggling to obtain a e-mail.
Looking at the forums most people seem to e- mail the hotel that they are staying at about guiding. Sounds as he is well known at all the hotels.
I bumped in to Paulino in the hotel foyer as he was returning with some American birders.
Hope it helps

Darren.
 
Steve.
Your wife sitting on the beach.You birdwatching.Sounds like my kind of holiday!
My other half came on some of my birdwatching jaunts as the surroundings are so pleasant.
The beach is a far better place to chill out.Lots of sunbeds and a glorious beach.The pool is a noisier area .The families tended to hang around there whereas couples stuck to the beach.
Not sure if you have been to Gambia or Goa but I can recommend 2 great hotels with similar easy birdwatching on hand.
If you have a scope you might think about taking it.
I put the tripod in the case and the scope in hand luggage.
Because the area is flat it wasn't a bind carrying it around.
Particulary useful at Flamingo Lagoon, Punta Playuela and Zona La Punta.
Forgot to mention it is worth spending some time between Pilar Beach car park and the cafe.There is a walkway with a lot of birds whizzing in and out[Saw Cuban Bullfinch here]
If you get the bus there make sure it is on its way there first.It does a loop between the hotel Playa Pilar and Cayo Coco.There is a timetable outside the hotel and the driver will understand you when you say 'Playa Pliar first'
You can get a taxi there and it costs the same.
Some birdwatchers took the bus to Cayo Coco[$5].You can stay for the day free with your AI wristband at the sister hotel.They said they saw the Tody there on a previous visit near the hotel.
It is more heavily wooded on Cayo Coco so a chance of seeing some different birds there.
 
Hi,

I have now booked a two week holiday in Cuba staying at the Hotel Sol on Cayo Guillermo.

Does anybody have any up-to-date contact details for a guide in this area?

I am keen on getting a bit further afield for a day or two to try and secure the Tody, Trogon etc.

Cheers

Hi Snapper

Please post some feedback on here once you have made your trip. I and I assume others would find this really helpful.
 
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