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Nightingale or a sprosser? (1 Viewer)
- Thread starter Janusz
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Andy Adcock
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Looks like a juvenile (?) with a scalloped breast, but I wouldn't be able to split the species pair on these pics I'm afraid.
leonardo_simon
Well-known member
What is “sprosser “ please?
thrush=sprosser - this name occurs almost as often
I would not exclude a juv, although this would be about a week or two earlier than usual
so the breast is not conclusive here?
Alexander Stöhr
Well-known member
Hello Janusz,
at first I agreed with Andy, this has to be a juvenile because of scalloped breast and whitish/pale spots on upperparts. But the pale spots seem to be not extensive enough (and too pale, not buffish/rusty enough?) and plumage worn/untidy. It has not enough of them on the greater coverts and I would expect a juvenile to look more pristine on this date.
After looking here http://blascozumeta.com/wp-content/...sseriformes/329.nightingale-lmegarhynchos.pdf and https://ringersdigiguide.ottenby.se/species/luscinia-luscinia/, I think it might well be a 2cy?
But I am unsure, as I havent enough experience with ageing. More questions than answers:
But for ID, I hope for more comments. Thanks!
at first I agreed with Andy, this has to be a juvenile because of scalloped breast and whitish/pale spots on upperparts. But the pale spots seem to be not extensive enough (and too pale, not buffish/rusty enough?) and plumage worn/untidy. It has not enough of them on the greater coverts and I would expect a juvenile to look more pristine on this date.
After looking here http://blascozumeta.com/wp-content/...sseriformes/329.nightingale-lmegarhynchos.pdf and https://ringersdigiguide.ottenby.se/species/luscinia-luscinia/, I think it might well be a 2cy?
But I am unsure, as I havent enough experience with ageing. More questions than answers:
- Is the iris colourless grey?
- The breast pattern seems very and extensively scalloped. Is this too extensive for 2 cy?
- I am not so sure about the bill. Isnt the extensive pinkish/flesh colouration and the appearant/nearly lack of dark/blackish on the tip better for a juvenile bird???
- It seems to have a slightly deformed bill (ratio of upper and lower mandible?)
But for ID, I hope for more comments. Thanks!
- Yes, colouration seems better for a Common Nightingale for me, too. But your picture seems warmish biased to me, shifting or enhancing hues towards Common here (no offence you know)
- End of May would be just ok for the earliest freshly fledged juveiles of Common Nightingale according to literature (Kompendium der Vögel ME), but to early for a Trush Nightingale according to this book.
Agreed, average first arrival date of male Thrush Nightingales in Poland is the first days of May, with the bulk arriving in the first two weeks of the month. Females are likely some days behind. Having fledged young by the 29th would be remarkable.
