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Vortex 8x32 Razor HD (1 Viewer)

mikefitz6

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Vortex 8x42 Razor HD

I thought I would share a few impressions. Take these with a grain of salt because I have no extensive experience testing binoculars. I have the Nikon 8x32 SE and the 10x42 SE and the Pentax DCF WP 8x42 just did not impress anymore. I really needed a higher quality waterproof 8x42 (don't apply logic to the last statement) so I went to look at the Swarovski SLC HD and the Swarovision. The store only had the 8.5x42 SV and I could see right away the increased sharpness and the color popped more than the poor old Pentax, but the price!!

The salesman said "take a look at these" and pulled out the Vortex.

Initial snap impressions.

Vortex and SV are both sharper than Pentax as expected. The Vortex seemed brighter than the SV - I find that hard to believe, but it was my impression. Both were brighter than the Pentax and the colors pop noticably more than the Pentax. I believe I can see some CA in the Pentax, but not in the Vortex. The Vortex did not seem as well built as the SV. SV was more solid and I liked the ergonomics better.

With a 30 day return policy, I figured I would grab the Vortex and take them home. (Only one set new in the box and the demos were left.)

At home it was close to sundown, so not much time to compare. Still brighter and more contrast/color pop than the Pentax. No question that they are sharper. The Vortex are longer than the Pentax by just under an inch with the eyecups fully extended. I did not think I would like the objective caps, but they are starting to grow on me. The included case seems to big, I suspect it will fit the 10x42 Razors also. There is about 1 1/2 inches of room to spare laterally. The Pentax case fits like a glove, the only thing the Pentax scored higher on. The case and bino straps I will not open until I know I will keep the binos. There is an enclosed cleaning cloth.

Then I got worried. The Vortex showed white in the lower outer quadrant of the FOV. It seemed to be worse on the right than the left. I think I would say it was like looking through mild to medium thick fog. I grabbed the Pentax again and saw the same thing but even more pronounced. With careful eye placement, it seems to resolve in both binos, but I will check it out more tomorrow. I did not see this in the SE's (and thankfully I do not get the blackouts in the SE's)

I pulled out the Nikon 8x32 SE. I think that I would say the Nikon is sharper, but not by much. Color pop and brightness are better in the Vortex as the sun was going down. No surprise there.

For less than half the price, I think I can be happy with the Vortex Razor HD's. I need to do a little more serious comparisons tomorrow and over the next few days before I am completely sold. In the store I did see the rolling ball effect on the SV's. It did not bother me too much, but I did not spend that long with them. I actually thought it was kind of fun to pan around and watch the effect. It did not bother me looking at rows of fishing poles, maybe it would get old in the field. I guess I will never know for sure. As far as sharpness to the edge of the field, I really looked for that and found I tend not to move my eyeballs around but turn my head and center the object. Maybe it is because I am so used to binos with poor edge correction that I have trained myself to never look at the edge of the FOV. I will spend more time with that tomorrow when I use the Nikons (8x32 and 10x42).

Anyway - those are my first impressions right or wrong.

I have four days off of work, so I hope to do some more serious testing. I think I might have to check out some stars and compare the Vortex to the 10x42 SE's!

Mike
 
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Sorry about the incorrect title, I just can't change it.

A couple of other comments.

I can find some CA, but it is there in the Nikon SE's too. Initially I was bothered by this because when I put my target right at the edge of the FOV I can see the CA. (purple on one side of the FOV and green on the other side.). I realized that is kind of dumb because I don't look at anything by putting it at the edge of the FOV to view it! On axis I really don't see any problems.

I think that the Nikon is a little sharper. It is close, but I always feel that there is just that extra crispness to the SE's. At times I wonder if it is because the Nikon's have a greater DOF? Could that be the case? If I pick a flat object there does not seem to be much difference, but if there is some depth to the target, the Nikon seems to have more in focus before and behind the object.

Color saturation, the Vortex wins without any question. My impression is that the Nikon's are cooler and the Vortex shows more realistic colors.

I still don't know if I will keep the Vortex. I think I have to compare them to the alphas one more time.

Mike

Mike
 
I have decided to return the Vortex binos. The only negative is that they are not as sharp as the Nikon SE's to my eyes. Since I don't need waterproof roofs at this time, I am fine with waiting until I find the perfect binos.

The Vortex are better (again to my eyes) than the SE's in several areas.

The color pops more and seems to be more true to life than the Nikon's cooler color cast.

Waterproof, I am a fair weather birder and Colorado has 300 days of sunshine on average, so that is not a big deal.

Less CA. I found that to be true by looking at sodium vapor street lights at night. Since stalking around neighborhoods at night with binoculars will probably wind up with jail time, I think it does not need further comparisons.

"Honestly officer, I have identified the Yangzhou Rongguang and Shanghai Hongchao varieties, but there is supposed to be a Changzao Newtown here somewhere near this college dorm!" (Yeah, I actually looked up manufacturers of sodium vapor lights, I have to much time on my hands.)

Click eyecups are way easier than fold down rubber cups.

Low light performance better than the Nikon 8x32 and 10x42.

I could be very happy with the Vortex, but I have the luxury of waiting until I find the perfect pair. I will check out the Swarovski SV 8.5x42 again or I can be happy with the Nikon SE's for now. After all, I have been waiting for my Astrophysics refractor for 4 years and I only have 6 more years to wait. Patience is a virtue!
 
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