Rosefinch or House Finch Tunbridge Wells (1 Viewer)

[tittletattler]

Hi all,

Is this a Rosefinch or a House Finch? The primaries look a little short perhaps. And should the tail look like that......?

Cheers,

Andy.

 

[lewis20126]

If the impression of heavy streaks on the flanks is correct, then looks OK for HF on first glance.

I'll not be bothering though!

cheers, a

 

[tittletattler]

If the impression of heavy streaks on the flanks is correct, then looks OK for HF on first glance.

I'll not be bothering though!

cheers, a

Thanks Alan. It does look like a House Finch. It'll hopefully be checked out tomorrow.

Cheers, Andy.

 

[Paul Chapman]

Kent - where east meets west!

All the best

 

[Neil Hagley]

Growing some nice adult type tail feathers.

 

[Farnboro John]

Kent - where east meets west!

All the best

Nothing new in that, had American Wigeon and Marsh Sandpiper in the same scope view at Elmley years ago. Golden-winged Warbler and Waxwing in the same car park at Larkfield also springs to mind; Oriental Pratincole and Wilson's Phalarope (Elmley again) Crossroads of the world is Kent!

Post your Kent East-West doubles here....

John

 

[Larry Sweetland]

Nothing new in that, had American Wigeon and Marsh Sandpiper in the same scope view at Elmley years ago. Golden-winged Warbler and Waxwing in the same car park at Larkfield also springs to mind; Oriental Pratincole and Wilson's Phalarope (Elmley again) Crossroads of the world is Kent!

Post your Kent East-West doubles here....

John

aren't Golden-winged Warbler and (Bo) Waxwing both from America John?

 

[stonechat1]

House Finch "escapee"

 

[tittletattler]

House Finch "escapee"

Indeed.

And bazzer66's photo taken today should remove all doubt.

Available for a tenner elsewhere on the internet if you want one.

Cheers,

Andy.

 

[Farnboro John]

aren't Golden-winged Warbler and (Bo) Waxwing both from America John?

Potentially the Waxwing could be but I think most of us assume that 99.999% of our Waxwings come from points East.

John

 

[wolfbirder]

Indeed.

And bazzer66's photo taken today should remove all doubt.

As in no doubt it is an escape? (I accept it probably is one).

Can't see any bling though (I don't think). Doesnt make it a wild bird of course.

 

[stonechat1]

As in no doubt it is an escape? (I accept it probably is one).

Can't see any bling though (I don't think). Doesnt make it a wild bird of course.

You don´t need to see any bling. It´s enough to know that young House Finches don´t migrate at this age / feather status. This bird is not older then 3 -4 month. I doubt that anywhere on this planet House Finches did breed between October/November and that a single juv. of them will migrate to the UK afterwards.

Ref. blings:
It´s not allowed to set pet birds free in your country and also not in mine.
Bird bands for captive birds does, as a general rule, have the following informations: Association, nation> federal state >regional club> breeders number> sequential number, year and ring size.
It´s very easy to trace the owner of an "escapee" when calling the right contact person. Though it would not proof if the bird is a real escapee or set free willingly by the bird owner.
I don´t breed them any longer in wild colour, you have only problems to sell them.

Regards,
Roman

 

[Andy Appleton]

You say "This bird is not older then 3 -4 month. I doubt that anywhere on this planet House Finches did breed between October/November and that a single juv. of them will migrate to the UK afterwards."

Why is it not more than 3/4 months old - I reckon it's an adult female? If there is nowhere on the planet House Finches breed at that time of year it's rather unlikely to be just a few months old, surely?

Can anybody suggest aging, with reason?

I live nearby and saw it yesterday and can confirm it's not ringed.

 

[Steve Lister]

Why is it not more than 3/4 months old - I reckon it's an adult female? If there is nowhere on the planet House Finches breed at that time of year it's rather unlikely to be just a few months old, surely?

Presumably the writer means it was hatched in captivity.

Steve

 

[stonechat1]

Presumably the writer means it was hatched in captivity.

Steve

I thought that was very clear expressed in post 12? :-C
That´s why I also told the information about bands.
But Andy Appleton should not hesitate to report this rarity if he want.
8-P

 

[Gastronaut]

If the impression of heavy streaks on the flanks is correct, then looks OK for HF on first glance.

I'll not be bothering though!

cheers, a

You don't need it, right?
o

 

[lewis20126]

You don't need it, right?
o

Well I've seen one in Penwith so that'll do me. I don't tick this stuff unless it's on Bubo and it was struck off. I should see some MEXICAN HOUSE FINCHES soon though, hooray B

cheers, a

 

[Jane Turner]

I had a brief excitement on 17th Oct 2001... when I had an apparent Rosefinch on my bird table. Sadly it was a Housefinch - apparently an unringed juv.....attributable to storm damage at Chester Zoo where there was an aviary with free flying Housefinches! Still not had a Rosefinch