Pugs - Slender vs Maple. (1 Viewer)

[JWN Andrewes]

A few to post here. Have had a few very small Pugs recently, three back on midish July, then a couple over the past week or so.

The July ones I took to be Slender -
Small size
Rounded wings
Greyish colour
Prominent discal spot

First three from 17th July, fourth from 21st July, possibly a recatch.

 

[JWN Andrewes]

Then there are a couple of more recent ones that I was thinking Maple

Small size
More pointed wings
Brownish colour
No more than a vague hint of a discal spot

First a 22nd August individual....

 

[JWN Andrewes]

.... and one from last night, also, I think, a Maple.

Trouble is, the closest Field Maple that I know of is at the school about half a mile away. I went out looking for more this afternoon, but came up blank, although I can't check the gardens behind us on the other side of the river.

Are there any obvious ID options that I'm overlooking?

 

[Andy Adcock]

I think you'll have to whip their bits off, not many recorders will accept them, (ours definitely wouldn't) whatever they are, without.

 

[JWN Andrewes]

Probably right there. I've had Common suggested for the later ones, which looks a fair shout. I'd thought they were on the small side, and possibly the late side, for Common, but that's just my inexperience I guess. Good to keep learning though!

 

[Andy Adcock]

Probably right there. I've had Common suggested for the later ones, which looks a fair shout. I'd thought they were on the small side, and possibly the late side, for Common, but that's just my inexperience I guess. Good to keep learning though!

The problem is that sometimes we think we know stuff only to be proved wrong. I know that in some places for example, Lempka's Gold Spot is accepted without dissection. I got one last year which I and at least one other experienced 'mother' here, was sure was one. I caught another Gold Spot on the same night which showed that the putative Lempka's was quite a bit smaller, making me even more confident in fact, our recorder was sufficiently intrigued by it that she agreed to dissect it - guess what, ordinary Gold Spot, I attach it here.

Pugs are a nightmare and unless it's something very obvious, I don't even look at them.